It’s revisionist history to say “bro,it was just meek”
People were looking at meek like he was next up to be top 3 at that time. He was considered by a lot to be the best lyricist in rap before that beef….its back to back that really hurt his career bad, if anything it’s a testament to back to back that people still overlook meek to this day.
I guess you just had to be there.
Back to Back was so effective, it took Drake linking back with Meek for Going Bad to get the ball rolling again lmao
War Pain>>>>>>Back to Back and it's not even close.
Everything Meek said in that song was facts. Drake’s Back to Back was just corny surface level shots with no real weight.
He got lucky Meek wasn’t better prepared cause Sissy Boy would’ve folded under pressure just like he did against Pusha and Dot.
Drake got humbled without ghostwriters he’s not even touching Chingy’s pen. He’s never dissing anyone again lol.
Buddy, War Pain is complete ass
Back to Back was so effective, it took Drake linking back with Meek for Going Bad to get the ball rolling again lmao
The going bad mv was cinema. Loved that s***
Gee Dance as a song wouldn’t have done those numbers without Wizkid and Kyla
i agree
but many people would still see as a popstar and not just a rapper
again u being defensive for no reason, when we just talking about pop radio performance
nothing dot spits would perform as well on pop radio as a song of him featuring sza, rihanna or taylor swift
its just common sense, yet you fighting for no reason
i agree
but many people would still see as a popstar and not just a rapper
again u being defensive for no reason, when we just talking about pop radio performance
nothing dot spits would perform as well on pop radio as a song of him featuring sza, rihanna or taylor swift
its just common sense, yet you fighting for no reason
I'm not being defensive I'm just pointing out the double standards yall are using to downplay Luther’s success.
So far the copium list looks like this:
1. TGD: Drake spent 29 weeks at #1 with 3 solo songs all off the same album in 2018. When Kendrick does that, we'll have that conversation.
2. Bofa: Kendrick fans gloating about basically a SZA R&B song featuring Kendrick as his “big hit” is pretty fun to watch though ngl
3. TGD: buh buh buh Pop Radio
4. TheKid187: Luther as a song doesnt do these numbers without sza
I'm not being defensive I'm just pointing out the double standards yall are using to downplay Luther’s success.
So far the copium list looks like this:
1. TGD: Drake spent 29 weeks at #1 with 3 solo songs all off the same album in 2018. When Kendrick does that, we'll have that conversation.
2. Bofa: Kendrick fans gloating about basically a SZA R&B song featuring Kendrick as his “big hit” is pretty fun to watch though ngl
3. TGD: buh buh buh Pop Radio
4. TheKid187: Luther as a song doesnt do these numbers without sza
you talking about general performance, while im just talking about the pop radio performance
but its good, i give up, people here just in constant beef mode even when in regards to the most basic takes
I'm not being defensive I'm just pointing out the double standards yall are using to downplay Luther’s success.
So far the copium list looks like this:
1. TGD: Drake spent 29 weeks at #1 with 3 solo songs all off the same album in 2018. When Kendrick does that, we'll have that conversation.
2. Bofa: Kendrick fans gloating about basically a SZA R&B song featuring Kendrick as his “big hit” is pretty fun to watch though ngl
3. TGD: buh buh buh Pop Radio
4. TheKid187: Luther as a song doesnt do these numbers without sza
The way they talk abt this song you would think people go silent until they hear szas part which is definitely not true 
We gonna be yelling roman numeral seven bae for a long time
I really wish Kendrick fans would just enjoy the victory and the coping from Drake fans instead being so easily baited into arguments
Back to Back was so effective, it took Drake linking back with Meek for Going Bad to get the ball rolling again lmao
And Going Bad is BY FAR Meek's biggest hit record lmao.
you talking about general performance, while im just talking about the pop radio performance
but its good, i give up, people here just in constant beef mode even when in regards to the most basic takes
You know what you right...you seem pretty chill and reasonable so I’ll take the blame
Let’s leave it at that. Enjoy the weekend fam
You know what you right...you seem pretty chill and reasonable so I’ll take the blame
Let’s leave it at that. Enjoy the weekend fam
u too, its never all that deep in the end
we just talking about music and artists
Kendrick fans talking down on SZA's impact on the chart performance of Luther and the success of the Grand National Tour would be like if Drake and Rihanna dropped a collab in 2016 that spent more weeks at #1 than any other Drake song beforehand and they went on a co-headlining tour than was the biggest tour Drake has ever been on and Drake fans were trying to act like it was all Drake's doing and Rihanna didn't bring anything to the table lol.
Reminder that before Luther, SZA had Kill Bill, Snooze and Saturn, all songs that spent MONTHS in the top 10 and on the Hot 100. All solo hits.
Reminder that the SOS tour grossed more than the MMATBS tour with fewer dates and that was SZA's first time playing arenas.
I'll say it again like I said the last time I brought this up: that doesn't mean Kendrick isn't a mega star in his own right. But downplaying or denying the significance of SZA's addition to Luther or to the success of their stadium tour is simply being disingenuous and even insulting to Kendrick because he added her PRECISELY because he knew what she'd bring to the table lol.
Going bad probably biggest Meek hit on paper but Dreams and Nightmares intro gotta be up there.
The reaction it gets till this day every time it's played is insane. The whole crowd stops each time and raps this s*** word for word.
Kendrick fans talking down on SZA's impact on the chart performance of Luther and the success of the Grand National Tour would be like if Drake and Rihanna dropped a collab in 2016 that spent more weeks at #1 than any other Drake song beforehand and they went on a co-headlining tour than was the biggest tour Drake has ever been on and Drake fans were trying to act like it was all Drake's doing and Rihanna didn't bring anything to the table lol.
Reminder that before Luther, SZA had Kill Bill, Snooze and Saturn, all songs that spent MONTHS in the top 10 and on the Hot 100. All solo hits.
Reminder that the SOS tour grossed more than the MMATBS tour with fewer dates and that was SZA's first time playing arenas.
I'll say it again like I said the last time I brought this up: that doesn't mean Kendrick isn't a mega star in his own right. But downplaying or denying the significance of SZA's addition to Luther or to the success of their stadium tour is simply being disingenuous and even insulting to Kendrick because he added her PRECISELY because he knew what she'd bring to the table lol.
Drake fans talking down on 21 Savage's impact on the chart performance of Jimmy Cooks, Knife talk, and the success of the It’s all a Blur Tour would be like if Kendrick and SZA dropped a collab in 2025 that spent more weeks at #1 than any other Kendrick song beforehand and they went on a co-headlining tour than was the biggest tour Kendrick has ever been on and Kendrick fans were trying to act like it was all Kendrick’s doing and SZA didn't bring anything to the table lol.
Reminder that before Jimmy Cooks, 21 had A lot , Bank Account and Rock Star, all songs that spent MONTHS in the top 10 and on the Hot 100. All hits.
I'll say it again like I said the last time I brought this up: that doesn't mean Drake isn't a mega star in his own right. But downplaying or denying the significance of 21’s addition to Jimmy Cooks or to the success of their stadium tour is simply being disingenuous and even insulting to Drake because he added him PRECISELY because he knew what he’d bring to the table lol.
u too, its never all that deep in the end
we just talking about music and artists
Yeah that’s true. I occasionally troll Drake stans but the truth is I don’t really care about charts or Spotify stats. I’ve said it b4 once Wallen’s album drops, I’m out.
What I really want is for KTT to finally go back to normal where every other thread isn’t about Drake or Kendrick. I’ll do my part I think it’s time we finally move on.
Drake fans talking down on 21 Savage's impact on the chart performance of Jimmy Cooks, Knife talk, and the success of the It’s all a Blur Tour would be like if Kendrick and SZA dropped a collab in 2025 that spent more weeks at #1 than any other Kendrick song beforehand and they went on a co-headlining tour than was the biggest tour Kendrick has ever been on and Kendrick fans were trying to act like it was all Kendrick’s doing and SZA didn't bring anything to the table lol.
Reminder that before Jimmy Cooks, 21 had A lot , Bank Account and Rock Star, all songs that spent MONTHS in the top 10 and on the Hot 100. All hits.
I'll say it again like I said the last time I brought this up: that doesn't mean Drake isn't a mega star in his own right. But downplaying or denying the significance of 21’s addition to Jimmy Cooks or to the success of their stadium tour is simply being disingenuous and even insulting to Drake because he added him PRECISELY because he knew what he’d bring to the table lol.
Do Drake stans talk down on 21 tho?
But Drake stans told me the Houston show flopped?
Unfortunately It not being 100 percent sold is gonna follow this tour untill the last date
Do Drake stans talk down on 21 tho?
I don’t think they do but they give Drake all The credit for it’s all a blur tour and don’t credit Cole, 21, or Wayne for their co-headlining dates
Which is the same thing Kendrick fans are doing (which is also stupid)
And it comes off hypocritical to criticize Kendrick fans from them when they did the same thing and gave Drake all the credit for his tour
But Drake stans told me the Houston show flopped?
He about to go 50M in 3 shows in LA