TheFader

1y

He’s just saying that pre-streaming albums didn’t get the same boost. Thriller didn’t get additional sales every time someone spun the vinyl

Free YoungBoy

1y

It doesn't matter how many albums Drake sold, the biggest moment of his career (his words) was getting his ass whooped by Kendrick in 2024. He'll rap about that L for the rest of his days making music

crolivia chow

1y

why yall debating what happened before streaming? we are in the streaming era right now and drake did 500m, which artist is going to do it next?

who scored the most 3 pointers? we devaluing their accomplishment because there was a good player before the 3 point line existing?

foh

quadra

1y

Yeah it just got a way easier calculation of an added sale when it was bought

e t

1y

Yall the ones saying he’s the biggest artist ever and topped every legend. Don’t falsely compare his inflated steam sales to non-streaming era artists and there’s no problem.

quadra

1y

Interesting how slow you are

quadra

1y

You could buy an album and never listen to it
1 sale = 1 sale

Doesn't work that way with streaming
People either listen or they don't

Charge it all to the game labels chose to play

Blue Magic

1y

Unfortunately dude hasn’t been spoken about since the day the album came out. Which is sad because Deeper was the best track on it

Album came out and drake was in it saying ain’t even the real s*** wait for solo. fans continue to say the same

Album came out drake has made exactly 22 new ig posts, pnd not in a single one.

Only video to come out from the collab album that had pnd as the main artist is the solo drake one with not even a pnd cameo

But hey maybe he can come out at one of the shows

e t

1y

My numbers are accurate. Singles streaming units started being counted in 2013 and album units in 2016. Drake’s pre streaming total was around 15m total units. Go check yourself.

For an example, Take Care, released in 2011, sold 2.2m units in the US as of August 2015 (pre-streaming). As of September 2019 (now with streaming included), it sold 6m units. Literally double the sales of the album’s prime/peak era

All thanks to streaming. If Thriller or any other legendary album was given the same opportunity during its prime, we can only imagine the kind of numbers it would do.

Blue Magic

1y

Unfortunately dude hasn’t been spoken about since the day the album came out. Which is sad because Deeper was the best track on it

Album came out and drake was in it saying ain’t even the real s*** wait for solo. fans continue to say the same

Album came out drake has made exactly 22 new ig posts, pnd not in a single one.

Only video to come out from the collab album that had pnd as the main artist is the solo drake one with not even a pnd cameo

But hey maybe he can come out at one of the shows

Zack From The Six

1y

What's your source on Take Care being on 2.2m units in August 2015? Because RIAA certified it 4x platinum March 2016. You telling me a, at that time, 4 year old album managed to sell 1.8m units in 7 months? That would be 65K every week, 7 months straight for a 4 year old album. I just looked at a random week during that period and Take Care was charting at #71 on BB200, so that can't be possible.

e t

1y

My source is Billboard Pro but here’s an open article from The Guardian talking about it:

Also Wikipedia says the same thing:

As well as Drake Stans on a forum in 2015 complaining that it hasn’t gotten a 2x platinum certification yet despite the sales:

Yes, adding in streaming did have that much of an impact on sales…

Zack From The Six

1y

Most daily streams yesterday:
Drake 48m
Weeknd 44m
Kendrick 37m

Didn't expect the gap to be this big again after seeing Luther pop off

crolivia chow

1y

I think this is pretty fair criticism, of course we'll never know why and for sure one explanation could be "drake is an a******" but a couple things happened that could be part of the explanation

• it was rumored/confirmed that the "collab" was really just a way for drake to drop outside of umg
• pnd was the cause of a couple delays and this was confirmed by ovo members iirc (mark or noel i think), could cause some bad blood / backs up that party wasnt really the focus of the "collab"

Zack From The Six

1y

Thanks for sharing your sources.
However, it seems like the numbers in those articles are incorrect.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2016/01/06/these-were-the-10-best-selling-albums-in-america-in-2015/

''Today, Nielsen (the company tasked with tracking the actual sales data that Billboard uses to compile its weekly charts) released its information regarding those albums that Americans simply couldn’t get enough of in 2015.''

An album needed 1.3m units in the entirety of 2015 to crack into top 10 best selling albums that year. But Take Care doesn't appear on the list, despite apparently selling 1.8M units in just 6.5 months? (and as I said in the post, it was charting at #71 during that period, so that can't be many units weekly).

e t

1y

????

Streaming album units weren’t certified until February 2016. https://www.vulture.com/2016/02/riaa-certifications-will-now-count-streaming.html

That best of 2015 list is prior to that. Take Care jumped from 2.2m to 4m in 8 months from the streaming change...which is the entire point.

Zack From The Six

1y

''Prior to the streaming era (from 2009-2015). Drake had a total of about 15m units certified including both albums and singles.''

Lol.

Hotline Bling, Hold On We're Going Home, Headlines, The Motto, Started From The Bottom ALONE were 15m CERTIFIED units before the end of 2015.
You lot just type s*** for fun or you got s***ty sources because you refuse to fact check whatever you read?

goretex

1y

who the f*** cares umg literally did everything they could to make that so

he will never touch 500 million, drake is the biggest artist in the history of american music and one of the biggest rap song ever is about the biggest artist ever makes sense tbh

Gosh

1y

When Zack disappears in shame >>>