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  • bmass 🇵🇭
    May 21, 2022
    SHAQUILLE

    Yeah they do. Great devine has multiple threads downplaying him.

    When NBA players were saying Baby ran their locker rooms Drake stans on here were hating on him heavy despite the collabs lol

    LMAO, they’re lost then. Lil baby is cool

  • May 21, 2022
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    shaleirose

    No, Drake is a rapper. 100%. Doja isn’t.

    Meg, Latto, Rico… those are rappers. Doja isnt.

    Drake is a rapper who dabbles in pop. Doja is a pop star who incorporates rap into her music. There’s a difference.

    Say this on Twitter and 500 Doja Cat stan accounts will be on your headtop in 10 minutes.

  • Nessy 🦎
    May 21, 2022
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    shaleirose

    Because we’re not talking about the quality of rapping, but if Doja is a rapper than Ed Sheeran is too

    But you’ll never see anyone say he is because he’s a red headed white dude with a guitar, artists like Lil Nas X and Doja only get the “rapper” label because they’re black artists, even though it’s clear as day that they aren’t

    Doja raps on like 75% of her songs

    Post malone is considered a rapper even tho he never raps

  • May 21, 2022
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    Wizzle

    Yo that’s crazy lmfao @02Shaq i remember when the fans did start hating on Travis in 2018

    They acting like im lying

    They bringing up Ye fans like I wouldnt say theyre hateful too

  • bmass 🇵🇭
    May 21, 2022
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    g6ntiana

    She wasn't really interesting anymore with her blonde hairs and tried to be more poppy. It's hard to explain

    I think her style during WWAFAWDWG also helped drastically with her success

    I have the same sentiment, besides just the image change the music wasn’t as good imo

  • May 21, 2022
    Nessy

    Doja raps on like 75% of her songs

    Post malone is considered a rapper even tho he never raps

    Who considers Post Malone a rapper?

  • May 21, 2022
    shaleirose

    Kid Laroi, Lil Nas X, Doja Cat, Post Malone.

    All pop stars, not a single one of those is a rapper

    Nas is more Rap than any of these

    The rest I would actually call em Pop

  • May 21, 2022
    shaleirose

    Simple: they make pop music with rap elements.

    Same way that Young Thug isn’t a country artist, even though he’s made songs with country elements.

    They’re pop singers who incorporate rap into their music.

    Yeah this a good take

    And the closer artists move towards pop music, the wider their audience is and the more likely they are to have commercial success

    Drake has done a great job throughout his career of walking that tight rope. He’s got songs that are straight pop songs (HOWGH, One Dance) but has enough songs that aren’t pop at all that people don’t lump him into the pop category. Allows him to get the commercial success of pop stars while staying in the Hip Hop cultural discussions

  • May 21, 2022
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    bmass

    I have the same sentiment, besides just the image change the music wasn’t as good imo

    Yeah for sure but I think she will be back with her next album

  • May 21, 2022
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    thegreatdivine

    Say this on Twitter and 500 Doja Cat stan accounts will be on your headtop in 10 minutes.

    I know, and every single one of them is wrong. It’s not discrediting her either. I think it’s actually more empowering to her because black artists always get lumped into rap and R&B, and I think that should stop.

    Doja is a bonafide pop singer

  • bmass 🇵🇭
    May 21, 2022
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    SHAQUILLE

    They acting like im lying

    They bringing up Ye fans like I wouldnt say theyre hateful too

    All Stan groups have been toxic on here

  • May 21, 2022
    yung goyard

    Travis didn't credit papi on sicko mode so it was justified

    True but it looks like he gave him the credit now though on riaa plaque shows papi name now

  • May 21, 2022
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    Theory

    https://chartmasters.org/spotify-most-streamed-albums/

    Just looks at Spotify though so it’s not actually the most accurate representation of total streams

    Streams a day on that site is just total streams divided by number of days since release I’m pretty sure

  • May 21, 2022
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    Htownwolf

    Its to show you how stupid your argument is
    People gonna hate on different artists on a music forum. Every “stan” has artists they like/dislike

    No s***. But when it becomes a pattern like that its alarming because you dont know this nigga

  • May 21, 2022
    shaleirose

    I know, and every single one of them is wrong. It’s not discrediting her either. I think it’s actually more empowering to her because black artists always get lumped into rap and R&B, and I think that should stop.

    Doja is a bonafide pop singer

    She actually is a good rapper though too. Wouldn’t mind a full on rap album from her

  • May 21, 2022

    Doja def not a rapper lol

  • May 21, 2022

    Baby and Trab got classics songs with Drizzy. Who tf hating lol

  • May 21, 2022
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    shaleirose

    No, Drake is a rapper. 100%. Doja isn’t.

    Meg, Latto, Rico… those are rappers. Doja isnt.

    Drake is a rapper who dabbles in pop. Doja is a pop star who incorporates rap into her music. There’s a difference.

    doja is a rapper as much as drake or ye sorry

    calm down you misogynist

  • May 21, 2022
    Nessy

    Doja raps on like 75% of her songs

    Post malone is considered a rapper even tho he never raps

    Post definitely raps in the same way that Doja raps. He’s moved away from it recently, but his first two albums did contain a lot of it.

    They’re both pop singers who rap though, not rappers who incorporate pop into their songs.

  • May 21, 2022
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    shaleirose

    Because we’re not talking about the quality of rapping, but if Doja is a rapper than Ed Sheeran is too

    But you’ll never see anyone say he is because he’s a red headed white dude with a guitar, artists like Lil Nas X and Doja only get the “rapper” label because they’re black artists, even though it’s clear as day that they aren’t

    What songs does Ed Sheeran have where hes completely rapping, I dont listen to them post them

    Lil Nas X gets called a rapper because he’s black, Doja Cat gets called a rapper because shes a f***ing rapper she literally raps all the time shes a rapper

    If you wanna say she doesn’t make rap music I agree or shouldn’t be boxed in as a rapper I agree

    But she is a pop star who RAPS shes a rapper who is a pop star. It is disrespectful to completely discredit the fact that shes a rapper. Doja Cat even calls herself a rapper, like literally gets mad when people say she isnt

    An artist raps all the time, calls herself a rapper but is ONLY called a rapper because shes black yea ok

  • bmass 🇵🇭
    May 21, 2022
    g6ntiana

    Yeah for sure but I think she will be back with her next album

    We will never get her making raw material again though

  • May 21, 2022
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    Plankton

    Streams a day on that site is just total streams divided by number of days since release I’m pretty sure

    If that was the case, then Nevermind by Nirvana wouldn’t be where it’s at, and ? By X would be a lot higher

  • May 21, 2022
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    shaleirose

    Lemme clarify: they’re pop singers.

    You can be a pop star in any genre, correct, but the genre of music they make is pop music. They’re not rappers, they’re pop singers who incorporate rap into their music.

    Nicki and Drake, on the other hand, are rappers who incorporate pop elements into their music. There’s a big difference.

    Bruh Nicki in her prime was singing just as much as Doja f*** do you mean

  • May 21, 2022
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    shaleirose

    I know, and every single one of them is wrong. It’s not discrediting her either. I think it’s actually more empowering to her because black artists always get lumped into rap and R&B, and I think that should stop.

    Doja is a bonafide pop singer

    I'd call Latto, Meg, Saweetie & Coi Leray rappers because they actually rap most of the time. Doja Cat does something similar to what Fergie did back in the day: sing most of the time but drop an 8-bar rap verse every now and then.

  • May 21, 2022
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    Y’all see lil baby new album having longevity like my turn?

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