HUT did as well as it did because the Weeknd aggressively kept pushing physicals. Drake and PND won't be doing any of that.

My projections are 150-200k.

Yeah I'm at like 180-220 since I'm still assuming 14-16 songs, primarily R&B

Yeah I agree, I don’t think he will either

I might adjust my projections after I listen to the album but for now, that's what I'm sticking to. 200k would be a win for this album imo.

GNX doing 225K+

Its top 5 of this decade at minimum.

I think it’s easily the biggest rap song of the 2020s. It’s not even close.

The debate exists in whether this is the biggest rap song of all time or not

Would you say it is bigger than Humble, God's Plan, The Box? Those are some of biggest streaming era songs.

It’s just between it and In Da Club atp

I'm sure y'all have been going back and forth on why it is or isn't valid, but for the people like me who just scroll by the posts on social media that said "490k for The Weeknd"... Huge W in this time and market.

Honestly, yes I would. The song has accomplished numerous things that HUMBLE., God’s Plan, and The Box never accomplished.

The fact that it won both Song of the Year AND Record of the Year AND was performed on the biggest stage an American artist can perform on for 133 million people puts it ahead of those songs, and that’s not even including all of its’ accomplishments.

Not to mention it will most likely be the closing song for a literal STADIUM tour this summer, something that can’t be said about God’s Plan or The Box

If this does over 200K ill dine you personally to any restaurant of your choosing and get you a birkin which you deserve queen

Throw lose yourself in there too but it's just these 3 in the discussion.

u got it backwards imo but i don’t feel like arguing

HLB was much bigger than One Dance, but the charts never reflected that

people look at the charts as the only context. This Travis Scott 4x4 went #1 and goosebumps never even hit top 40. Goosebumps is bigger than many #1 songs since it's been out.

Exactly. The charts don’t tell the whole story.

But you know these Drake stans aren’t even being genuine when they say that either, because if raw statistics were the only measure that mattered, then HUMBLE. would inarguably be the biggest rap song of all time since it’s the only one that’s ever reached 20x million sold.

But they would never say that.

just my opinion tho

I think we need to define what is a true cultural moment vs. something that is just a successful record.

For example, would anyone in here say that a song like Paint the Town Red by Doja Cat was a cultural moment? Or was it just a very successful single?

When I like a song, it's a cultural moment. If I don't care for it, it has no impact.

Unironically I think that’s the thinking most people operate by subconsciously

I never said other wise
Just saying, One Dance was also a cultural moment

Nah I can recognize a song that has a massive impact even if I don’t like it. For example that Olivia Rodrigo 2021 run was a huge cultural moment and I ain’t like 1 minute of it lol

Drake is an underground artist with no cultural moments and zero impact