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  • Feb 10, 2025
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    SWAN

    aside from Starboy, these numbers are pretty underwhelming

    an artist of Weeknd’s caliber should have at least one album debut with 300 million streams

    Well, he doesn’t, and he’s still at that upper echelon caliber, so what now?

    That’s my main point. He’s a household, globally recognized, stadium selling name and yet he’s never had a single album debut with 230M+ streams in the US. And?

    I just don’t get what’s so hard for y’all to grasp about the concept of his albums performing better over time than they do out the gate

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    Well, he doesn’t, and he’s still at that upper echelon caliber, so what now?

    That’s my main point. He’s a household, globally recognized, stadium selling name and yet he’s never had a single album debut with 230M+ streams in the US. And?

    I just don’t get what’s so hard for y’all to grasp about the concept of his albums performing better over time than they do out the gate

    His albums haven't performed at the upper echelon in the US for about a decade.

    Outside of the US (mostly in latin america/asia), yes, inside, no

    Of the top selling albums in the US in the last decade I don't think The Weeknd would have a single entry in the top 20

    What I don't get is you support pure sales because the artist gets paid, but you never say s*** about how most of the weeknd's streams are now mostly in less valuable countries

  • Feb 10, 2025
    Tilia

    Drake 2016 or 2018 is not at least level 2?

    If you put 2018 Drake in there then The Weeknd belongs there too with AH and Blinding Lights

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    BRAVE

    Level 1:
    Elvis 1956
    Beatles 1964
    Beatles 1967
    MJ 1983

    Level 2:
    Em 2000
    Em 2002
    50 2003
    Adele 2011
    Bad Bunny 2022

    These are THE years culturally + everything else - but mainly culturally. I think all the other years ‘in the convo’ aren’t on these levels tbh, they’re all fighting for Level 3 at best

    bad bunny in level 2 and not drake for 2018 is crazy lol

    drake's 2018 was a lot bigger than bad bunny's 2022

    no taylor either? Wtf. Her 2021/2022 is probably level 1

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    mangotflu

    bad bunny in level 2 and not drake for 2018 is crazy lol

    drake's 2018 was a lot bigger than bad bunny's 2022

    no taylor either? Wtf. Her 2021/2022 is probably level 1

    CULTURALLY. What did Drake do culturally in 2018?

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    mangotflu

    bad bunny in level 2 and not drake for 2018 is crazy lol

    drake's 2018 was a lot bigger than bad bunny's 2022

    no taylor either? Wtf. Her 2021/2022 is probably level 1

    your brain cant grasp bad bunny 2022 peak still huh

    He had the biggest streaming album ever/broke barriers and toured bigger than any year Drake has had.

    And bad bunny was was everywhere to a point we couldnt go out without bad bunny songs.

    He changed the nightlife dynamics of most of America. That's culture.

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    mov

    CULTURALLY. What did Drake do culturally in 2018?

    What did Adele do culturally in 2011 lmao

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    Expert

    your brain cant grasp bad bunny 2022 peak still huh

    He had the biggest streaming album ever/broke barriers and toured bigger than any year Drake has had.

    And bad bunny was was everywhere to a point we couldnt go out without bad bunny songs.

    He changed the nightlife dynamics of most of America. That's culture.

    And Drake had like 5 of the biggest songs of the last decade, all in 1 year, including a song where he birthed Bad Bunny to US audiences

    Complete lies about the tour also

    Lmao @ changing the nightlife dynamics of america, what on earth

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    mangotflu

    And Drake had like 5 of the biggest songs of the last decade, all in 1 year, including a song where he birthed Bad Bunny to US audiences

    Complete lies about the tour also

    Lmao @ changing the nightlife dynamics of america, what on earth

    he birthed bad bunny to US audiences? you are so far removed from reality its crazy.

    World's hottest tour averaged 10M a show in US in 2022. Bad Bunny was so big even Drake rapping about doing bad bunny numbers lol.

    This has nothing to do with Drake or anyone else. Bad Bunny in 2022 is peak male artist last decade.

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    mangotflu

    And Drake had like 5 of the biggest songs of the last decade, all in 1 year, including a song where he birthed Bad Bunny to US audiences

    Complete lies about the tour also

    Lmao @ changing the nightlife dynamics of america, what on earth

    thats what culture is bruh

    nightlife is a HUGE part of the culture. You clearly do not understand lol

    Future impact far exceeds his numbers because of the environments its being played in.

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    Expert

    he birthed bad bunny to US audiences? you are so far removed from reality its crazy.

    World's hottest tour averaged 10M a show in US in 2022. Bad Bunny was so big even Drake rapping about doing bad bunny numbers lol.

    This has nothing to do with Drake or anyone else. Bad Bunny in 2022 is peak male artist last decade.

    No one in the US cared about Bad Bunny before MIA dropped

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    Expert

    thats what culture is bruh

    nightlife is a HUGE part of the culture. You clearly do not understand lol

    Future impact far exceeds his numbers because of the environments its being played in.

    You have to be early 20s, right?

    Drake ran the nightlife scene of the whole country for 5-10 years way more than Bad Bunny does right now lol.

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    mangotflu

    No one in the US cared about Bad Bunny before MIA dropped

    lmao when I Like it came out before and its way bigger song than MIA

    Bad Bunny was already a star before hand.

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    "no taylor either? Wtf. Her 2021/2022 is probably level 1"

    What???? She did nothing culturally EVER. What the f*** did she even drop in 2021 or 2022? she's just selling good, thats it

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    mangotflu

    What did Adele do culturally in 2011 lmao

    ?

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    mangotflu

    You have to be early 20s, right?

    Drake ran the nightlife scene of the whole country for 5-10 years way more than Bad Bunny does right now lol.

    dont tell me about nightlife when you dont even live in US

    im in my late 20s and literally went out 3 days a week min all over the country for a decade (RIP my liver).

    Bad bunny single handedly let to every city having reggaeton clubs now. Aint no other artist with this much impact.

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    this is what happens when a person sees everything through the internet vs actually going outside and seeing things.

    How you going to talk about american nightlife when you not even from here.

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    mangotflu

    His albums haven't performed at the upper echelon in the US for about a decade.

    Outside of the US (mostly in latin america/asia), yes, inside, no

    Of the top selling albums in the US in the last decade I don't think The Weeknd would have a single entry in the top 20

    What I don't get is you support pure sales because the artist gets paid, but you never say s*** about how most of the weeknd's streams are now mostly in less valuable countries

    He has never cleared 500K first week, yet he has three of the biggest albums since 2015. Do with that what you will.

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    Imagine thinking 2018 Drake was bigger than 2022 Bad Bunny.

    2022 Bad Bunny was one of the biggest artists to ever walk the Earth.

    Of course it’s a non-American non-Spanish speaking person trying to claim otherwise

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    TheFader

    Imagine thinking 2018 Drake was bigger than 2022 Bad Bunny.

    2022 Bad Bunny was one of the biggest artists to ever walk the Earth.

    Of course it’s a non-American non-Spanish speaking person trying to claim otherwise

    This song was like everywhere in 2022

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    Humble is 20X platinum eligible but I also know Titi Me Pregunto or Me Porto Bonito got the nightlife on lock in 2022 more than Humble or anything prior to NLU can even compete with by Kendrick.

    Not everything is numbers, the impact can be measured in different ways.

    2022 bad bunny literally had country bars playing reggaeton that in their existence never even played a rap song. Yall dont understand the cultural impact.

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    Scorpion sold 3.7M copies in 2018. 3.4M in SEA sales, 308K in pure sales, and 4.3 billion streams.

    Un Verano Sin Ti sold 3.4M copies in 2022. 3.32M in SEA sales, about 68K in pure sales, and 4.3 billion streams.

    So it finished with like 300K less than Scorpion without any physical copies available, was streamed basically the exact same amount of times, and did all of this while being an album completely in Spanish.

    Un Verano Sin Ti is currently at 18 billion streams on Spotify, and Scorpion is at 10 billion. UVST is getting 7 million daily streams, and Scorpion is getting 2.3 million.

    On the US Spotify Chart, UVST is currently at #41, and Scorpion is at #148.

    If you wanna say “that’s because Bad Bunny just dropped an album”, then if we go back to a random day in August last summer, UVST was at #31 and Scorpion was at #163. If you wanna say “that’s because of the Kendrick beef”, then we can go back to February 2024 and UVST was at #28, while Scorpion was at #73.

    Acting like it can’t be argued that Bad Bunny’s 2022 was bigger than Drake’s 2018 just feels like an opinion that can only be rooted in racism or xenophobia

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    TheFader

    Scorpion sold 3.7M copies in 2018. 3.4M in SEA sales, 308K in pure sales, and 4.3 billion streams.

    Un Verano Sin Ti sold 3.4M copies in 2022. 3.32M in SEA sales, about 68K in pure sales, and 4.3 billion streams.

    So it finished with like 300K less than Scorpion without any physical copies available, was streamed basically the exact same amount of times, and did all of this while being an album completely in Spanish.

    Un Verano Sin Ti is currently at 18 billion streams on Spotify, and Scorpion is at 10 billion. UVST is getting 7 million daily streams, and Scorpion is getting 2.3 million.

    On the US Spotify Chart, UVST is currently at #41, and Scorpion is at #148.

    If you wanna say “that’s because Bad Bunny just dropped an album”, then if we go back to a random day in August last summer, UVST was at #31 and Scorpion was at #163. If you wanna say “that’s because of the Kendrick beef”, then we can go back to February 2024 and UVST was at #28, while Scorpion was at #73.

    Acting like it can’t be argued that Bad Bunny’s 2022 was bigger than Drake’s 2018 just feels like an opinion that can only be rooted in racism or xenophobia

    This is actually crazy that UVST sold 3.4 million copies

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