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  • Oct 23, 2024
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    TheFader

    Sexyy Red literally had two of the most viral rap songs last year

    Also had Get It Sexy this year

    Do you genuinely believe any of those songs were anywhere close to being hits lol

  • Oct 23, 2024
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    mangotflu

    Do you genuinely believe any of those songs were anywhere close to being hits lol

    You gotta be white if you think those songs weren’t hits

  • Oct 23, 2024
    RCLamp

    Nah bruh yall have to be unemployed

    Very employed, this is just a way to pass the time at work

  • Oct 23, 2024
    quadra

    I was told we had to report Drake's last tour as Drake + 21 Savage

  • Oct 24, 2024
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    TheFader

    Like I’ve explained before, The Weeknd has had numerous songs take a while to catch wind with the GP. It’s been a month since the two singles dropped, I’m not losing sleep over how they’re doing commercially yet.

    I keep saying just give it a couple months and then you can call it a flop all you want if it still never takes off, but Weeknd has already proven time and time again that a lot of his hit records are slow burns

    This time it feels different. There's absolutely noone talking about him outside his fanbase. The mainstream focus is entirely on the pop girlies and some other stuff. This album will have similar success to Dawn FM.

  • Oct 24, 2024
    Botney

    This time it feels different. There's absolutely noone talking about him outside his fanbase. The mainstream focus is entirely on the pop girlies and some other stuff. This album will have similar success to Dawn FM.

    On another note the men in pop need to step it up and it’s never been more obvious than now

  • Oct 24, 2024
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    @fader be fighting to defend the weeknd’s honor in this thread every day

  • Oct 24, 2024
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    mangotflu

    Do you genuinely believe any of those songs were anywhere close to being hits lol

    ???? How can you call yourself in tune with hits and culture thinking like this lmao

  • Oct 24, 2024

    Yes those were hits, real hits

  • Oct 24, 2024
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    mangotflu

    Do you genuinely believe any of those songs were anywhere close to being hits lol

    They were hits and if you think otherwise, maybe you shouldn't be having these discussions.

  • Oct 24, 2024
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    Elemental

    @fader be fighting to defend the weeknd’s honor in this thread every day

    I don’t understand how it’s cool for the same one user to be irrationally hating on an artist for years now and we’re the weird ones for calling him out?

  • Oct 24, 2024
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    TheFader

    I don’t understand how it’s cool for the same one user to be irrationally hating on an artist for years now and we’re the weird ones for calling him out?

    How do you do know that thegreatdivine has been hating on the weeknd for years if you joined this site in 2024?
    I thought you said you weren’t an alt @shaleirose

  • Oct 24, 2024
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    Elemental

    How do you do know that thegreatdivine has been hating on the weeknd for years if you joined this site in 2024?
    I thought you said you weren’t an alt @shaleirose

    I’m not talking about Divine.

    I’m talking about that @mangotflu thread from 2022 that gets posted all the time where they said Weeknd couldn’t sell out stadiums

  • Oct 24, 2024
    TheFader

    I’m not talking about Divine.

    I’m talking about that @mangotflu thread from 2022 that gets posted all the time where they said Weeknd couldn’t sell out stadiums

  • Oct 24, 2024
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    Fun fact: Thriller was certified double diamond in just under its first two years of release

  • Oct 24, 2024

    It’s also the only double diamond album to not take over a decade to go double diamond

  • Oct 24, 2024
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    TheFader

    You gotta be white if you think those songs weren’t hits

    are you refining the definition of hit again lmao
    SkeeYee peak 62 (12 weeks on chart), 118m streams after 18 months
    Pound Town 2 peak 66 (10 weeks on chart), 68m streams after 18 months

    like how tf are these hits, they were just viral on social media for a few weeks but that didn't translate into the songs actually becoming hits

  • Oct 24, 2024
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    thegreatdivine

    They were hits and if you think otherwise, maybe you shouldn't be having these discussions.

    Lol tgd I trust your opinion more than anyone elses in this thread, how can those songs be hits if they performed so badly on Spotify+Hot100 and 1 of them is "only" at 68m on Spotify after 12 months?

    like are we redefining the definition of a hit again? Or are we saying hits are relative to the sizeof the artist?

    Like if we're being real here, those 2 sexxy red songs (SkeeYee and Pound Town 2) probably werent even in the top 200 most streamed songs of 2023.

  • Oct 24, 2024
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    mangotflu

    Lol tgd I trust your opinion more than anyone elses in this thread, how can those songs be hits if they performed so badly on Spotify+Hot100 and 1 of them is "only" at 68m on Spotify after 12 months?

    like are we redefining the definition of a hit again? Or are we saying hits are relative to the sizeof the artist?

    Like if we're being real here, those 2 sexxy red songs (SkeeYee and Pound Town 2) probably werent even in the top 200 most streamed songs of 2023.

    Well, there are different levels of hits. They weren't smash hits or chart hits but they were hits nonetheless. They all performed well on radio formats, they stay in rotation in clubs and they're well-known Sexyy Red songs, especially within her fanbase and the rap world.

    Obviously, you're not gonna compare someone like Sexyy Red to someone like Taylor Swift who you fully expect to go #1 or at least reach the top 10 with her singles.

    Same goes for GloRilla. Her songs may not peak in the top 10/top 20 but they do damage on urban/rhythmic radio formats and they're well-known enough within rap circles.

    Pound Town, SkeeYee, Get It Sexy, Rich Baby Daddy and U My Everything are all hits for Sexyy Red. She can perform those songs at any rap show and fans would scream back the words.

  • Oct 24, 2024
    BRAVE

    ???? How can you call yourself in tune with hits and culture thinking like this lmao

    it doesn't work like that at all, things can be absolutely huge culturally and not translate into the actual song being huge. that's what happened with sexxy red's music

    same with Thick of It right now which is absolutely everywhere online, it's literally getting talked about as much as any megahit I can remember yet it's not even top 200 daily on spotify

  • Oct 24, 2024
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    thegreatdivine

    Well, there are different levels of hits. They weren't smash hits or chart hits but they were hits nonetheless. They all performed well on radio formats, they stay in rotation in clubs and they're well-known Sexyy Red songs, especially within her fanbase and the rap world.

    Obviously, you're not gonna compare someone like Sexyy Red to someone like Taylor Swift who you fully expect to go #1 or at least reach the top 10 with her singles.

    Same goes for GloRilla. Her songs may not peak in the top 10/top 20 but they do damage on urban/rhythmic radio formats and they're well-known enough within rap circles.

    Pound Town, SkeeYee, Get It Sexy, Rich Baby Daddy and U My Everything are all hits for Sexyy Red. She can perform those songs at any rap show and fans would scream back the words.

    That's fair I guess, I don't really see hits that way because if theyre the standards then there's surely over 100 hits every year, that feels... wrong to me

    but still my original point was that if you're Drake & you want a hit, calling on her to be a focal point of the song is borderline insane, there was probably 100 artists bigger than her at that point in time

  • Oct 24, 2024

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  • Oct 24, 2024
    mangotflu

    That's fair I guess, I don't really see hits that way because if theyre the standards then there's surely over 100 hits every year, that feels... wrong to me

    but still my original point was that if you're Drake & you want a hit, calling on her to be a focal point of the song is borderline insane, there was probably 100 artists bigger than her at that point in time

    It's all relative. For instance, regarding movies and their box office performances. A movie with a $200M production budget that ends up making $400M is a flop because when the cost of marketing and other logistics gets added, the production studios will come away with a loss.

    Meanwhile, a movie with a $5M production budget making $25M in the box office will come away with a profit, all things considered.

    Charts are a good indicator for what a hit is but they're not the be-all and end-all. For instance, U My Everything might not be seen as a chart hit but I was outside this summer and there's no club, bar or party I went to that didn't play that song. I'm sure strip clubs played the song till death as well. It also did well on urban/rhythmic radio formats and is another recognisable song by Sexyy Red to her fanbase and the rap world. Is it a smash hit? No. But it resonated with its intended audience and that's always a win.

    Drake has dozens of songs that didn't peak high or even chart that are undeniable hits. Versace Remix never charted. My Way Remix never charted. We Made It Remix never charted. If Drake goes to any rap show and plays those songs, fans will scream the words back to him because they're all known Drake remixes. There's more than one way to look at things is what I'm saying, basically.

  • Oct 24, 2024
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