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  • Aug 28, 2024
    class wario

    actually an interesting point being made amongst stans being weirdos: does drake move merch like that I feel like trav has a more distinct aesthetic through line to his sneakers, merch etc (even if it's pretty well worn at this point) and ppl are more likely to want to rep ts/cj branding.

    kanye's merch is so popular that ppl are wearing it and dont know its kanye's merch.

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    class wario

    actually an interesting point being made amongst stans being weirdos: does drake move merch like that I feel like trav has a more distinct aesthetic through line to his sneakers, merch etc (even if it's pretty well worn at this point) and ppl are more likely to want to rep ts/cj branding.

    exactly. nobody wants trash ass ugly drake merch

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    Yapper

    drake has failed to sell products in the past. travis is from school of kanye of moving product

    when has drake failed to sell products

  • Aug 28, 2024
    class wario

    actually an interesting point being made amongst stans being weirdos: does drake move merch like that I feel like trav has a more distinct aesthetic through line to his sneakers, merch etc (even if it's pretty well worn at this point) and ppl are more likely to want to rep ts/cj branding.

    No ur right he wouldn't sell near as much as Trav does, but if The Weeknd can sell merch (which is all such terrible quality, idk wtf his team are doing) then Drake can

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    exactly. nobody wants trash ass ugly drake merch

    if that Kanye s*** above counts as YE merch then Nocta counts as Drake merch & honestly that's decently popular, not hard to be popular since it's literally just Nike

    Drake would have absolutely murdered these Trav merch numbers if he utilised his Nike collab properly, but the fact he released that tech fleece separately from a project says it all

  • Aug 28, 2024
    mangotflu

    if that Kanye s*** above counts as YE merch then Nocta counts as Drake merch & honestly that's decently popular, not hard to be popular since it's literally just Nike

    Drake would have absolutely murdered these Trav merch numbers if he utilised his Nike collab properly, but the fact he released that tech fleece separately from a project says it all

    delusional as always

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    blud thinks nocta is popular lol

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    mov

    blud thinks nocta is popular lol

    Popular enough to sell 200k shirts/hoodies at an album release, yeah lol

    doesn't even need to be popular, iv never seen anyone wear a travis scott utopia tshirt yet he sold like 200k of those

  • Aug 28, 2024
    mangotflu

    Popular enough to sell 200k shirts/hoodies at an album release, yeah lol

    doesn't even need to be popular, iv never seen anyone wear a travis scott utopia tshirt yet he sold like 200k of those

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    An artist sells 1.5m tickets to a tour at $250 each
    yet ktt goblins will tell me that artist can't sell 200k nike tshirts/hoodies at $50 each

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    morgan wallen avi and drake stan

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    blud compares touring with trash ass nocta stuff

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    Early nocta stuff and the early drake clb Nike stuff had some buzz tbf, don't really see much hype at all about nocta now tho.

    I'mma say that at least drake/nocta went for new shoe silos instead of just pumping out Jordans like trav for the most part tho

  • Aug 28, 2024
    mangotflu

    when has drake failed to sell products

    anything lifestyle

  • Aug 28, 2024
    mangotflu

    Popular enough to sell 200k shirts/hoodies at an album release, yeah lol

    doesn't even need to be popular, iv never seen anyone wear a travis scott utopia tshirt yet he sold like 200k of those

    ur washed

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    beyonce and drake cant sell lifestyle

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    mangotflu

    An artist sells 1.5m tickets to a tour at $250 each
    yet ktt goblins will tell me that artist can't sell 200k nike tshirts/hoodies at $50 each

    Gotta let them run with their narratives. Drake has two very successful clothing brands, not to mention all the other stuff he sells through the Drake Related website lol. He just isn't a bundle merchant like Travis and prioritizes the music over everything else.

    Physicals are limited to 4 copies per person so 50,000 Travis Scott stand can easily move 200,000 units, it doesn't mean anyone else cares about the project or is actively consuming it, that's why you have to look at more than just the pure sale numbers when we're this deep into the streaming era.

    And yes, while pure/physical sales does count as consumption, in an era where roughly 90% of everyone in the US who listens to music does so via streaming, no one actually listens to music via cassette/CD and less than 50% of the people who buy vinyls actually own vinyl players to listen to the vinyls they purchase, streaming is the most organic way for people to consume music and is by far the most accurate reflection of broad interest in music.

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    Yapper

    beyonce and drake cant sell lifestyle

    this is nonsense lol

    Beyonce's whole issue when it comes to business was never going into s*** her audience actually wants. The Ivy Park s*** was an actual joke lmao, expensive ass clothes whilst her audience are happy buying $10 dresses from Shein

    All she had to do was go into skincare/makeup like Riri/Ariana/Selena/Kylie, seriously I almost never see a woman celebrity fail with that s***

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    I was wrong btw, Trav didnt sell 200k merch, it was 73k, lmao

    Anyone who thinks Drake can't sell 73k nike tshirts/hoodie with an album bundled needs help

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    mangotflu

    this is nonsense lol

    Beyonce's whole issue when it comes to business was never going into s*** her audience actually wants. The Ivy Park s*** was an actual joke lmao, expensive ass clothes whilst her audience are happy buying $10 dresses from Shein

    All she had to do was go into skincare/makeup like Riri/Ariana/Selena/Kylie, seriously I almost never see a woman celebrity fail with that s***

    drake and beyonce cant sell lifestyle. however u slice it up

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    Yapper

    drake and beyonce cant sell lifestyle. however u slice it up




    damn someone tell them fr

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    damn someone tell them fr

    the top two are Nike athletes bro do u think they are copping this stuff in their spare time

    Ovo brand definitely lowkey kinda successful even if it is just corny collab bait, can't deny that

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    burymeinecko

    Yeah but Drake doesn't do bundles lol. It's actually more impressive that he sells what he does with streaming alone

    Travis didn’t do 190K with bundles either. There’s digital downloads included.

    Drake can’t move units in digital downloads because his fans couldn’t care enough to buy his music

  • Aug 28, 2024
    mangotflu

    I was wrong btw, Trav didnt sell 200k merch, it was 73k, lmao

    Anyone who thinks Drake can't sell 73k nike tshirts/hoodie with an album bundled needs help

    He probably could, but he definitely can’t do 130K in digital downloads like Travis just did.

    But his max for physical bundles would be like 100K, his fans don’t care about anything other than streaming his music

  • Aug 28, 2024
    thegreatdivine

    Gotta let them run with their narratives. Drake has two very successful clothing brands, not to mention all the other stuff he sells through the Drake Related website lol. He just isn't a bundle merchant like Travis and prioritizes the music over everything else.

    Physicals are limited to 4 copies per person so 50,000 Travis Scott stand can easily move 200,000 units, it doesn't mean anyone else cares about the project or is actively consuming it, that's why you have to look at more than just the pure sale numbers when we're this deep into the streaming era.

    And yes, while pure/physical sales does count as consumption, in an era where roughly 90% of everyone in the US who listens to music does so via streaming, no one actually listens to music via cassette/CD and less than 50% of the people who buy vinyls actually own vinyl players to listen to the vinyls they purchase, streaming is the most organic way for people to consume music and is by far the most accurate reflection of broad interest in music.

    All this cope because Drake can’t do numbers with pure sales anymore

    He’s the streaming king, Drake fans do not care enough to spend extra dollars on his music anymore

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