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  • Nov 20, 2023
    Jalen Brunson Fan
    https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1725982575124992220

    Dolly has entered the chat

    damn. would be dope if she got it tbh

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    provider

    chart weak af. where's that new Dua single rn?

    👀

    song is tanking in the us rn (and everywhere else basically)

  • Nov 20, 2023
    jack johnson

    👀

    song is tanking in the us rn (and everywhere else basically)

    damn. maybe it picks back up over the holidays or they just move on.

  • Nov 20, 2023
    Botney

    that's one lyric out of many bad ones

    i could name 10 corny bars from Drake's new album.

    My point isn’t about the bad lyrics its about how geared towards a 6-12 year old audience it is. Its also geared towards mainly females who are the face of the world when it comes to what entertainment does good bc they will buy and support like no other. Yea drake got corny lines but it’ll be some inappropriate s*** lol.. probably something about being lesbian or some s*** 😂

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    The Kid Laroi debuting at #25

    hitsdailydouble.com/sales_plus_streaming

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    Ross x Meek 31k

    :​

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    tis the season

    The Kid Laroi debuting at #25

    https://hitsdailydouble.com/sales_plus_streaming

    good album but it took way too long to come out

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    tis the season

    The Kid Laroi debuting at #25

    https://hitsdailydouble.com/sales_plus_streaming

    industry plants can only go so far

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    jack johnson
    https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1726699483508154404

    so it flopped in the US

  • Nov 21, 2023
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    kasich2028

    industry plants can only go so far

    Tell that to Tate McRae 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

  • Nov 21, 2023
    cole breezy

    Tell that to Tate McRae 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

    I still do t know what a Tae McRate is. Is it a commercial product?

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    cole breezy

    Tell that to Tate McRae 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

    Was Chris Brown an industry plant in 2005?

  • Nov 21, 2023
    jack johnson

    Was Chris Brown an industry plant in 2005?

    he was the tate mcrae of 2005

  • Nov 21, 2023
    jack johnson

    Was Chris Brown an industry plant in 2005?

    I think it was just the fact he had one of the best r&b albums of the 2000s and arguably the best debut single of all time

  • Nov 21, 2023
    EchiPantheress

    so it flopped in the US

    It'll spend months in the top 10 eventually. The pop radio stimulus just has to kick in first lmao.

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    but KTT told me that Billboard changed the rules and inflated radio so pop could chart better 😮‍💨

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    jack johnson
    https://twitter.com/lippredicts/status/1726740459328844152https://twitter.com/lippredicts/status/1726752658504003772

    but KTT told me that Billboard changed the rules and inflated radio so pop could chart better 😮‍💨

    Radio is still massive on the charts. The #1 song right now has less than 200 points and just being #1 on radio can get you 90 of those points, netting a spot in the top 25 of the charts, even with 0 streams and sales.

    Dua Lipa 's latest single debuted at #11 with less than 13M streams, 8k sales and 24M airplay audience impressions. That's how powerful radio still is.

    By the time she's up to 60M airplay audience impressions, it won't matter if she's only pulling 8M streams every week, she'll have a spot in the top 10.

    The only songs getting that amount of airplay are pop songs or better still, songs that get tons of airplay on pop radio AKA non-rap songs.

    That's how/why these pop songs spend months in the top 10 while most rap songs spend less than a fraction of the time. The pop songs get the bulk of the points from airplay while the rap songs don't, despite, in most cases, outstreaming those pop songs.

    The real fix to Billboard solving its current low-points issue is making streaming stronger on its charts but no, the first metric it butchered was streaming, less than 5 years into its implementation. Sales and radio are only just now getting their impact reduced.

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    Radio is important, it helps for longevity, but the biggest song in the US this year isn’t here, for example

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    jack johnson

    Radio is important, it helps for longevity, but the biggest song in the US this year isn’t here, for example

    https://twitter.com/talkofthecharts/status/1688941204581322752

    Yeah, because Last Night was actually a monster on streaming.

    Most of the other songs that spent months in the top 10 this year didn't have that kind of streaming presence and managed that mostly because of radio.

    I'm not even saying radio itself is bad. It just benefits only a handful of artists while everyone else is on an even playing field where streaming is concerned. Pop radio gets the most audience impressions (a rap song can be #1 on BOTH Urban and Rhythmic radio and still not have half the the points of the #1 song on pop radio). That's how disproportionate things are.

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