this white devil really has all of these teenagers brain washed

okay why? break it down to me why did it sell higher? Bundles?

Only on KTT is an objective statement somehow being taken as hate

Bro really thinks people are listening to music on cassette and CD in 2023

an album was not streamed over 300,000,000 more times than utopia to have someone in here talking about.. I GO BY BILLBOARD!!!!!

It sold more because the album sold more overall copies.

Trinkets and collectors items

Bro really thinks real sales purchased with real world dollars somehow don’t count

Talk your s*** papi's angels

Exactly you can’t say it bc you’re one of those guys who just cant be wrong.. Lol. Its sad I hope you happy though lol

Utopia had 331 million first week streams, For All The Dogs had 514.

That is not 300 million more

I am literally not wrong, the album sold more than the other album

This is genuine mental illness lmao

I never said they didn’t count. Sure you can say Utopia outsold FATD. But when FATD had 300 million more listens it’s kind of silly to act like Utopia had more motion.

The purpose of the billboard chart is to measure music consumption. Back in the day CDs were the method of consumption. That is no longer true.!

thread is conflicting sales and streaming. it's no ones fault but 50 and billboard

It didn’t have 300 million more streams.

For All The Dogs right now is pulling in 14 millIon daily streams.

Utopia is pulling in 9 million daily, and the album released 3 months ago

Which is why I’ve been saying for a while the two stats need to be tracked separately. Billboard seems to be moving in that direction with the new Top Streaming Albums list

Okay 200 million. The point still stands lol.

Utopia is an AOTY contender for me and FATD was just okay. But I’m not gonna act like Trav selling collectibles means he had the bigger album that week lol.

You think the average Trav fan who bought all 5 of the album covers listened to even one CD?

That does not matter. They spent real world dollars on those items to support their artist and that matters more than anything.

Billboard has never tracked who listens to a CD or a vinyl, all they count is whether the purchase was made or not.

Music sales and music consumption are two different metrics.

Thats just spotify. Drake is lapping him 3 times over on apple music. Maybe even more lol

It does matter because the goal of the bb200 and bb in general is to measure music consumption. billboard needs to evolve their chart and get with the times. Nobody listens to CDs. Back in the day it made sense because CDs were the main method of music consumption

And no the f*** it doesn’t. Hypebeast buying up CDs as collectors items to hopefully resell one day will never trump a fan just enjoying some music on YouTube or whatever.

@shaleirose is literally celebrating artist abusing an flaw in billboards rules to make them appear bigger than they are. Its actually hilarious when you think about how travis waited months after the album was finished to drop because he knew about billboard changing the rules to allow bundles again 😭

There’s no way to prove that so neither of us will ever know

Utopia was done a minimum 3-4 months before release bc of vinyl pressing. Realistically 6-7 months. He literally waited until he got his way with billboard to drop. He is an insecure clown when it comes to dropping music. He will abuse any leverage he can get

No, Billboard tracks music sales as well as music consumption. You’re conflating the two metrics as one thing.