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  • Oct 24, 2023
    thegreatdivine

    Drake is charting 10 albums every week while Kanye is charting 2 lmao.

  • Oct 24, 2023
    quadra

    Not fair to Drake

    He got a bunch of other smashes

    Looney man only has a limited number to stream

    No because Drake’s real smashes are all pulling in 200K+ daily streams. The only one in the Top 15 that isn’t, is Too Good

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    Vibe

    Kanye also hasn't released a new album in a minute. Alot of factors going on. Drake has 4 new projects since Donda if we include CLB. People are probably streaming For All The Dogs now

    He went to the most-streamed Kanye album to make an argument to s*** on Drake who outdoes Kanye in the numbers game so effortlessly, it's not even worth discussing

  • Oct 24, 2023

    old ass Rolling Stones still doing 73k

  • Oct 24, 2023
    thegreatdivine

    He went to the most-streamed Kanye album to make an argument to s*** on Drake who outdoes Kanye in the numbers game so effortlessly, it's not even worth discussing

    Yeah Drake has been commercially dominant for over 10 years at this point

    I think the convo started cause we were comparing GRODT, Views and Grad though

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    Deezed

    i love the wild statements some people make, like we aint living in 2023 and we cant check the daily, weekly, monthly, yearly streaming data for any given song to see real-time demand

    "no one listens to too good in 2023"

    a quick look at spotify shows that almost 200,000 people listen to Too Good daily and thats just spotify, factor in Apple Music and every other streaming platform and youtube, Too Good is being streamed around ~400,000-450,000 times every day easily

    its funny because In My Feelings gets almost the same daily plays on spotify as Too Good

    It’s all relative. Drake has millions upon millions of fans. Even his least popular songs are still gonna rake in tens of thousands of streams per day, that doesn’t make them smash hits

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    Should we talk about how Donda dropped with 32 songs and stopped charting after just over a year while CLB dropped with 21 songs and has never left the top 100 of the Billboard 200?

  • Oct 24, 2023
    thegreatdivine

    He went to the most-streamed Kanye album to make an argument to s*** on Drake who outdoes Kanye in the numbers game so effortlessly, it's not even worth discussing

    The original discussion was Graduation vs. GRODT, someone else brought up Views

  • Oct 24, 2023

    Y’all be coming into the conversations not even knowing what the conversations are

  • Oct 24, 2023
    thegreatdivine

    Should we talk about how Donda dropped with 32 songs and stopped charting after just over a year while CLB dropped with 21 songs and has never left the top 100 of the Billboard 200?

    Here y’all go man, flipping the whole s*** around

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    LONGEST-CHARTING ACTS ON THE BILLBOARD 200
    1. The Beatles — 3,237 weeks
    2. Drake — 2,814 weeks
    3. Taylor Swift — 2,549 weeks
    4. Eminem — 2,301 weeks
    5. Michael Jackson — 2,082 weeks
    6. Elton John — 2,045 weeks
    7. The Rolling Stones — 2,041 weeks
    8. Elvis Presley — 1,986 weeks
    9. Barbra Streisand — 1,885 weeks
    10. Pink Floyd — 1,671 weeks
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    38. Kanye West — 1,158 weeks

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    Original convo was which rap album is closer to being the Thriller of rap: Graduation or GRODT.

    Then someone said Grad belongs in the Views/C3 tier of classic rather than the GRODT/MMLP tier.

    To which I said Graduation belongs in the latter tier because it has a larger number of hits and has stood the test of time better.

    This was never about Drake lmao

  • Oct 24, 2023

    The sign of someone losing an argument is when they resort to changing the argument to something that has nothing to do with what was originally being argued

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    shaleirose

    Original convo was which rap album is closer to being the Thriller of rap: Graduation or GRODT.

    Then someone said Grad belongs in the Views/C3 tier of classic rather than the GRODT/MMLP tier.

    To which I said Graduation belongs in the latter tier because it has a larger number of hits and has stood the test of time better.

    This was never about Drake lmao

    We can agree to disagree, but Graduation is absolutely of the same class as C3/Views IMO. And this is proven by the similar sales.

    MMLP / GRODT will forever be a tier above. It's like comparing MJ then vs. Drake now. Makes no sense.

  • Oct 24, 2023

    Daily streaming numbers for big hits (and old songs who went viral etc.) barely get affected when somebody drops a new album

    One Dance gets the same streams since months and it wont change because it's still listed in enough public and also private playlists

    Also people are listening to older music more than ever and it will be even bigger in the next years since people discover old songs. Most people don't even check out new albums immediately anymore

    Little Bit from Drake went "viral" a few weeks ago and is now getting around 125-150k streams daily on Spotify, before it just got like 15k streams daily

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    shaleirose

    It’s all relative. Drake has millions upon millions of fans. Even his least popular songs are still gonna rake in tens of thousands of streams per day, that doesn’t make them smash hits

    my post wasnt referring to you arguing about hit vs smash hit which has its own points,

    it was another poster cliaming no one listens to Too Good in 2023 which is just wild

    i get what you mean by "smash" vs "hit" but arguing that is so subjective, like a "smash" to a girl is gonna be different than a "smash" to a dude

    like comparing jumpman to Too Good, most dudes would say jumpman was a way bigger hit yet when u check the numbers it doesnt show that

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    thegreatdivine

    LONGEST-CHARTING ACTS ON THE BILLBOARD 200
    1. The Beatles — 3,237 weeks
    2. Drake — 2,814 weeks
    3. Taylor Swift — 2,549 weeks
    4. Eminem — 2,301 weeks
    5. Michael Jackson — 2,082 weeks
    6. Elton John — 2,045 weeks
    7. The Rolling Stones — 2,041 weeks
    8. Elvis Presley — 1,986 weeks
    9. Barbra Streisand — 1,885 weeks
    10. Pink Floyd — 1,671 weeks
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    38. Kanye West — 1,158 weeks

    Is David Bowie on this list?

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    All that crying about how all the singles off Graduation are bigger than anything off Views but Flashing Lights managed to move over 10M units in the US despite dropping in 2007 and yet the other singles off Graduation like Can't Tell Me Nothing and Flashing Lights are nowhere close to doing that

    What does that mean, I wonder

  • Oct 24, 2023
    Vibe

    We can agree to disagree, but Graduation is absolutely of the same class as C3/Views IMO. And this is proven by the similar sales.

    MMLP / GRODT will forever be a tier above. It's like comparing MJ then vs. Drake now. Makes no sense.

    I don’t think MMLP belongs in the convo at all and I think Graduation undoubtedly stands next to or above GRODT

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    Deezed

    my post wasnt referring to you arguing about hit vs smash hit which has its own points,

    it was another poster cliaming no one listens to Too Good in 2023 which is just wild

    i get what you mean by "smash" vs "hit" but arguing that is so subjective, like a "smash" to a girl is gonna be different than a "smash" to a dude

    like comparing jumpman to Too Good, most dudes would say jumpman was a way bigger hit yet when u check the numbers it doesnt show that

    They wanna argue semantics in a thread designated for numbers discussions and ignored the numbers I brought up because it didn't align with their feelings

  • Oct 24, 2023
    Vibe

    We can agree to disagree, but Graduation is absolutely of the same class as C3/Views IMO. And this is proven by the similar sales.

    MMLP / GRODT will forever be a tier above. It's like comparing MJ then vs. Drake now. Makes no sense.

    Grad is bigger than Views

  • Oct 24, 2023
    Deezed

    my post wasnt referring to you arguing about hit vs smash hit which has its own points,

    it was another poster cliaming no one listens to Too Good in 2023 which is just wild

    i get what you mean by "smash" vs "hit" but arguing that is so subjective, like a "smash" to a girl is gonna be different than a "smash" to a dude

    like comparing jumpman to Too Good, most dudes would say jumpman was a way bigger hit yet when u check the numbers it doesnt show that

    I think “no one” is a bit harsh, but it’s definitely not the number of people you would expect to be listening to a smash on the daily.

    Like I said before, it’s his only song on Spotify within his Top 15 most streamed songs that’s getting less than 200K daily plays

  • Oct 24, 2023
    thegreatdivine

    They wanna argue semantics in a thread designated for numbers discussions and ignored the numbers I brought up because it didn't align with their feelings

    Even numbers have context behind them, if they didn’t the point of a numbers thread would be entirely pointless

  • Oct 24, 2023
    thegreatdivine

    All that crying about how all the singles off Graduation are bigger than anything off Views but Flashing Lights managed to move over 10M units in the US despite dropping in 2007 and yet the other singles off Graduation like Can't Tell Me Nothing and Flashing Lights are nowhere close to doing that

    What does that mean, I wonder

    Spiraling so bad you don’t even know which songs you’re typing anymore, take a break man put the keyboard down

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    Deezed

    my post wasnt referring to you arguing about hit vs smash hit which has its own points,

    it was another poster cliaming no one listens to Too Good in 2023 which is just wild

    i get what you mean by "smash" vs "hit" but arguing that is so subjective, like a "smash" to a girl is gonna be different than a "smash" to a dude

    like comparing jumpman to Too Good, most dudes would say jumpman was a way bigger hit yet when u check the numbers it doesnt show that

    Too Good
    Overall 999,626,380 Daily streams 185,155

    Too Good isn't that big anymore in 2023. People barely listen to that song right now and thats ok. It still moved a lot in the past. Drake has like 85 songs right now who get more streams daily.

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