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  • Oct 24, 2023
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    thegreatdivine

    Stop crying. You asked for 4 huge singles off Views and I gave them to you. Stop with the coulda, shoulda, woulda s***. Many songs off Thank Me Later, Take Care and Nothing Was the Same would have also been bigger if they dropped in the streaming era but that's not the argument being had.

    Don't try to downplay Post Malone's hits. If it was so easy to go Diamond now, Taylor Swift would have 30 Diamond singles already. Going Diamond is still hard and is something only the biggest songs which stream really well over an extended period of time can manage.

    Take Care pre-dates streaming and still has a better argument for a batch of singles that could stand next to Graduation’s (Marvin’s Room, Headlines, Take Care, The Motto)

    Anybody bringing up Controlla and Too Good in a discussion vs. Graduation’s singles is getting laughed at man

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    shaleirose

    If you wanna talk smash singles, Scorpion is the album that’s comparable to Graduation. Not Views.

    Nonstop, God’s Plan, In My Feelings, and Nice For What can easily all stand next to Stronger, Can’t Tell Me Nothing, Good Life, and Flashing Lights.

    Funny how now you don't wanna argue numbers in a thread about numbers. You wanna argue semantics, which is absolutely ridiculous.

    Those 4 songs I mentioned off Views will still ring off today. Play Too Good, One Dance and Controlla at any summer party and everyone will dance to it. Hotline Bling is also a classic smash hit.

    You keep hailing Graduation as this holy grail album that no commercial rap album has matched since its release and that's just because you're stuck in the past.

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    thegreatdivine

    Funny how now you don't wanna argue numbers in a thread about numbers. You wanna argue semantics, which is absolutely ridiculous.

    Those 4 songs I mentioned off Views will still ring off today. Play Too Good, One Dance and Controlla at any summer party and everyone will dance to it. Hotline Bling is also a classic smash hit.

    You keep hailing Graduation as this holy grail album that no commercial rap album has matched since its release and that's just because you're stuck in the past.

    I’m not stuck in the past at all, that’s not even in my Top 5 Ye albums

    You fail to realize that Billboard numbers pre-streaming don’t always accurately represent how big hip-hop songs were. You probably think Faneto wasn’t a smash hit since it never charted at all.

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    shaleirose

    Take Care pre-dates streaming and still has a better argument for a batch of singles that could stand next to Graduation’s (Marvin’s Room, Headlines, Take Care, The Motto)

    Anybody bringing up Controlla and Too Good in a discussion vs. Graduation’s singles is getting laughed at man

    One Dance has almost 3 Billion streams, there's only like 4-5 songs that also have that lol

  • Oct 24, 2023
    shaleirose

    Take Care pre-dates streaming and still has a better argument for a batch of singles that could stand next to Graduation’s (Marvin’s Room, Headlines, Take Care, The Motto)

    Anybody bringing up Controlla and Too Good in a discussion vs. Graduation’s singles is getting laughed at man

    Why are you crying? You asked for 4 hit singles off Views and I gave them to you and now you wanna argue what is perceived as more iconic or not (something, that unlike numbers, is entirely subjective). You made an argument and you got proved wrong. Move on.

  • Oct 24, 2023

    None of them are by Kanye either

  • Oct 24, 2023

    F*** about numbers

    Flashing Lights alone s***s on Drakes discography

  • Oct 24, 2023

    "Circo Loco"

  • Oct 24, 2023
    shaleirose

    I’m not stuck in the past at all, that’s not even in my Top 5 Ye albums

    You fail to realize that Billboard numbers pre-streaming don’t always accurately represent how big hip-hop songs were. You probably think Faneto wasn’t a smash hit since it never charted at all.

    Nigga, nobody cares. We can make this argument for thousands of albums that were released before the streaming era. Again, you asked for 4 hit singles of Views and I gave them to you and now you're shifting your argument. Stop it.

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    Using raw numbers to argue something that released during streaming vs. pre-streaming is so damn disingenuous.

    Man probably thinks Too Good by Drake is a bigger song than Beat It by MJ because Too Good is approaching Diamond

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    Vibe

    One Dance has almost 3 Billion streams, there's only like 4-5 songs that also have that lol

    I conceded One Dance is comparable, Hotline Bling as well.

    Controlla and Too Good, not so much

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    shaleirose
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    Using raw numbers to argue something that released during streaming vs. pre-streaming is so damn disingenuous.

    Man probably thinks Too Good by Drake is a bigger song than Beat It by MJ because Too Good is approaching Diamond

    You really are a pathetic and sore loser.

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    shaleirose

    I conceded One Dance is comparable, Hotline Bling as well.

    Controlla and Too Good, not so much

    Why are you stuck on the number of singles though?

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    Vibe

    One Dance has almost 3 Billion streams, there's only like 4-5 songs that also have that lol

    Since y'all compare

    Stronger would've 5 billion streams if streaming services were a thing in the 00s

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    thegreatdivine

    You really are a pathetic and sore loser.

    You know I’m right

    You know how many worldwide recognizable songs never went Diamond?

    And you’re in here saying Too Good by Drake can stand next to Graduation’s singles because it’s approaching diamond status in the streaming era. Give me a break man.

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    So now, we should fault songs that dropped in the streaming era and not concede to them being hits despite having the numbers to be considered such because there are older songs that would have, could have, should have been bigger IF they were released in the streaming era? Do you hear how stupid that argument is?

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    Vibe

    Why are you stuck on the number of singles though?

    I’m just saying, there are certain classics that had a handful of iconic and worldwide known singles (Thriller, GRODT, Graduation, etc.)

    vs.

    The classics like Views and Carter 3 that were huge albums but just had maybe 1 or 2 really big songs on them

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    So, now a song with over 1B streams on Spotify and almost 10M units moved in the US doesn't count as hit because a KTT2 user says so?

  • Oct 24, 2023

    I just know TGD fuming typing all these paragraphs right now

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    mov

    Since y'all compare

    Stronger would've 5 billion streams if streaming services were a thing in the 00s

    We're just comparing Apples to Oranges at this point

    Kanye has 3 songs with a billion streams on Spotify

    One Dance almost has more streams than all of those combined

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    thegreatdivine

    So now, we should fault songs that dropped in the streaming era and not concede to them being hits despite having the numbers to be considered such because there are older songs that would have, could have, should have been bigger IF they were released in the streaming era? Do you hear how stupid that argument is?

    No, I’m not saying fault them, but you can tell which songs are on that level and which are just being propped up by the streaming era.

    Songs like God’s Plan, Nice For What, In My Feelings, One Dance, Hotline Bling… those are SMASHES.

    Not damn Too Good

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    thegreatdivine

    So, now a song with over 1B streams on Spotify and almost 10M units moved in the US doesn't count as hit because a KTT2 user says so?

    Never said it wasn’t a hit.

    We’re talking about WORLDWIDE SMASHES.

    There’s a difference

  • Oct 24, 2023
    Vibe

    We're just comparing Apples to Oranges at this point

    Kanye has 3 songs with a billion streams on Spotify

    One Dance almost has more streams than all of those combined

    Kinda crazy because I never hear One Dance outside and nobody talkes about it

    Strong case of farming bots just like Life Is Good

  • Oct 24, 2023
    Vibe

    We're just comparing Apples to Oranges at this point

    Kanye has 3 songs with a billion streams on Spotify

    One Dance almost has more streams than all of those combined

    One Dance is one of them ones

    I’m talking about Too Good

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    shaleirose

    I’m just saying, there are certain classics that had a handful of iconic and worldwide known singles (Thriller, GRODT, Graduation, etc.)

    vs.

    The classics like Views and Carter 3 that were huge albums but just had maybe 1 or 2 really big songs on them

    Carter 3 had more than two. A Milli and Lollipop are already two. Lol

    Album has Got Money and Mrs. Officer too

    Also outsold Grad

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