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  • orangetcovid 👌🏿
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    If Spotify streaming numbers are culturally biased toward heavily populated nations the why is India struggling to do at least 2 songs over a mil daily. And yeah Spotify is partnered with a lot of Indian movie companies and does huge advertising there

    Do they got their own streaming platform. I know China and south korea do

  • Jul 28, 2022
    orangetcovid

    Do they got their own streaming platform. I know China and south korea do

    They used to have Ganna but that died in like 2018 once Spotify got popular there. But YouTube is still the biggest platform in India

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    After Hours

    If Spotify streaming numbers are culturally biased toward heavily populated nations the why is India struggling to do at least 2 songs over a mil daily. And yeah Spotify is partnered with a lot of Indian movie companies and does huge advertising there

    Yall gotta realize nobody beating the US in terms of entertainment consumption. They got other priorities in India.

    Spotify premium costs $2 monthly over there they just don't want to pay lol

  • Jul 28, 2022

    Curious how all of a sudden if people pay for subscriptions it must mean something but if an artist doesn't sell many physical or digital sales it doesn't matter if the streaming good

  • Jul 28, 2022
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    thegreatdivine

    Yes, but it is being consumed for free. That will always be an important distinction. Streaming was incorporated into music charts by various global music markets to substitute for pure sales due to its sharp decline. That's where the value of the number of streams equal to one sale was arrived at, relative to what people would have to pay for premium access to music. It wasn't just some random figure they pulled from the air. It's silly to suggest that free streams and paid-tier streams should weigh the same thing or even be close to each other in value when they're clearly so different.

    All you're doing is making up excuses. Being a developing country doesn't mean you don't have options to pay for your music, neither does it mean that you're too broke to pay for your music. It's people in Spanish-speaking countries (where Bad Bunny is the strongest) that spend A LOT of money on other s***. They just don't see the value in spending money on music and that's where the difference lies so why shouldn't there be consequences for that when streaming is basically a last attempt to get people to still place a value on art and content?

    Free streams do count as consumption. They're just weighed a lot less than paid-tier streams, which is more than fair/reasonable imo. You're only bothered because it affects Bad Bunny more than most other artists but the problem isn't because Bad Bunny fans are so poor they can't afford to pay to stream his music (many of those same fans have no issues buying merch/buying tickets to see him on tour — which is a lot more than what they'd have to pay to have premium access to Bad Bunny's music for a month or even a year), you should be asking why the bulk of his fans don't think his music is worth paying to be streamed.

    Why do you think it's fair that paid and unpaid streams are weighted differently?

    Maybe these are counted the same but for example, the differences between spotify free and spotify premium are literally minute other than one being paid. Are we really going to sit here and say ads and the ability to skip songs is a good reason for the difference?

  • Jul 28, 2022
    After Hours

    If Spotify streaming numbers are culturally biased toward heavily populated nations the why is India struggling to do at least 2 songs over a mil daily. And yeah Spotify is partnered with a lot of Indian movie companies and does huge advertising there

    India still needs to catch up. Look in 2 years again and I‘m pretty sure Spotify India will be one of the biggest markets. It‘s already growing exponentially.

  • Jul 28, 2022
    Theory

    Damn Bad Bunny couldn’t even do 100k this week? Floppp

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    1887

    Yall gotta realize nobody beating the US in terms of entertainment consumption. They got other priorities in India.

    Spotify premium costs $2 monthly over there they just don't want to pay lol

    Some people in India only make $2 a day. I wouldn’t wanna waste my daily salary on a Spotify subscription when I can listen for free.

  • Jul 28, 2022
    KayTray

    Some people in India only make $2 a day. I wouldn’t wanna waste my daily salary on a Spotify subscription when I can listen for free.

    It says almost $5 a day Membership last a whole month.

  • Jul 28, 2022
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    Apple Music:
    2. Jimmy Cooks
    52. Started from the Bottom
    60. Knife Talk
    70. Nonstop
    88. Headlines

    He got hits from 5 different eras in the top 100

  • iHype

    Apple Music:
    2. Jimmy Cooks
    52. Started from the Bottom
    60. Knife Talk
    70. Nonstop
    88. Headlines

    He got hits from 5 different eras in the top 100

    Madness.

  • Jul 28, 2022
    iHype

    Apple Music:
    2. Jimmy Cooks
    52. Started from the Bottom
    60. Knife Talk
    70. Nonstop
    88. Headlines

    He got hits from 5 different eras in the top 100

    Abel and Drake ruling spotify and apple music respectively with their catalog rn

  • Jul 28, 2022
    iHype

    Apple Music:
    2. Jimmy Cooks
    52. Started from the Bottom
    60. Knife Talk
    70. Nonstop
    88. Headlines

    He got hits from 5 different eras in the top 100

    In the top 100, he's also got:
    43. Wants and Needs
    75. No Guidance
    89. God's Plan

  • Jul 28, 2022
    After Hours

    If Spotify streaming numbers are culturally biased toward heavily populated nations the why is India struggling to do at least 2 songs over a mil daily. And yeah Spotify is partnered with a lot of Indian movie companies and does huge advertising there

    India super super broke + they listen to music through YouTube mv and catalog old stuff

  • Jul 28, 2022

    Bollywood songs do 100 m in a day on YouTube also they don’t have a single star music is decentralized people aren’t fan of artists they Stan studios and directors

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    bigbelts

    Why do you think it's fair that paid and unpaid streams are weighted differently?

    Maybe these are counted the same but for example, the differences between spotify free and spotify premium are literally minute other than one being paid. Are we really going to sit here and say ads and the ability to skip songs is a good reason for the difference?

    should an album sale and an illegal download count the same?

  • Jul 28, 2022
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    Dedication 666

    should an album sale and an illegal download count the same?

    What does that have to do with what i said. I'm clearly talking about paid vs unpaid streaming services

  • Jul 28, 2022
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    bigbelts

    What does that have to do with what i said. I'm clearly talking about paid vs unpaid streaming services

    Answer the question though.

  • Jul 28, 2022
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    Dedication 666

    Answer the question though.

    Why, it's not the same

  • Jul 28, 2022
    KayTray

    Some people in India only make $2 a day. I wouldn’t wanna waste my daily salary on a Spotify subscription when I can listen for free.

    Classism from the KTT2 Drake stans?

  • Jul 28, 2022
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    bigbelts

    Why, it's not the same

    Why should a free stream count, and why should it count as much as a paid stream?

    free streams are also mainly music videos.

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    In Asia there is local streaming services bigger than Spotify. It's the same deal with Africa too. That's the main reason their Spotify numbers are 'low'. Nothing to do with paying. Spotify has free accounts... they just don't use Spotify in general. Lots of their streaming services also aren't tracked by Billboard, IFPI, or other industry organizations.

    Y'all wanna talk about how Bad Bunny is the biggest artist in the world cause Spotify numbers regardless of revenue, but then leave out that there's other streaming services ppl use. Spotify ain't used by most of the world, it's not even bigger than Apple Music in US.

    Spotify is only huge in North America, South America, and Europe/Oceania. The population of those areas is 1.5~ billion.

    Asia & Africa alone is 6 billion.

    If we keeping it real, an artist like BTS is prob the biggest in the world off reaching the most people. They have the biggest sales and probably would have the biggest streams if countries like China, India, etc actually used Spotify.

  • Jul 28, 2022
    iHype

    In Asia there is local streaming services bigger than Spotify. It's the same deal with Africa too. That's the main reason their Spotify numbers are 'low'. Nothing to do with paying. Spotify has free accounts... they just don't use Spotify in general. Lots of their streaming services also aren't tracked by Billboard, IFPI, or other industry organizations.

    Y'all wanna talk about how Bad Bunny is the biggest artist in the world cause Spotify numbers regardless of revenue, but then leave out that there's other streaming services ppl use. Spotify ain't used by most of the world, it's not even bigger than Apple Music in US.

    Spotify is only huge in North America, South America, and Europe/Oceania. The population of those areas is 1.5~ billion.

    Asia & Africa alone is 6 billion.

    If we keeping it real, an artist like BTS is prob the biggest in the world off reaching the most people. They have the biggest sales and probably would have the biggest streams if countries like China, India, etc actually used Spotify.

    No one talks about how impressive it is that BTS pull as much streams as they do off Spotify. They're the only K-pop act doing that.

  • Jul 28, 2022
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    Dedication 666

    Why should a free stream count, and why should it count as much as a paid stream?

    free streams are also mainly music videos.

    I. Literally. Gave. You. An. Example. To. Follow.

    I'm not talking about music videos.

  • Jul 28, 2022
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    bigbelts

    I. Literally. Gave. You. An. Example. To. Follow.

    I'm not talking about music videos.

    music videos are free streams...

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