Jul 3, 2022
VeggieKubernetesBlack Panther album for starters
Then whatever that Oklahoma Pg lang nonsense
And that Michael jordan announcement
Point being this wasn’t a surprise drop. It wasn’t announced at 10 pm on a Thursday.
He had 5 years of anticipation following his most commercially successful project, and released another installment to his heart series.
Like I said before, he just isn’t relevant to the culture anymore.
And making an album with deep concepts doesn’t excuse it being bad and unlistenable.
Do you consider More Life promo for CLB?
Him pursuing his own label/other ventures doesn't count as promo for an album. The general public doesn't even know about PGLang
I'll give you the social media posts in August and the one announcing the album in May. The Superbowl performance too. So he had like 9 months of promo at best, not 5 years
- Jul 3, 2022·1 reply
TkkenEveryone wants to talk about how 808s isn't experimental and actually bit this and that artist but can't name a single album that sounds like it
Yes I can
- Jul 3, 2022thegreatdivine
Kendrick's numbers are disappointing ONLY because it's Kendrick. It'd be the same if Adele dropped and did 200k. Why were Dawn FM's numbers seen as an L? Because it's the Weeknd. His previous 3 albums before Dawn FM did between 444k, 348k and 412k respectively. That creates an expectation, whether you like it or not. Now, if Dawn FM had done like 275k, no one in their right mind would call it an L because while it's a decline, it's not a steep decline. To show you how much of an L Dawn FM was, Starboy (2016) pulled more on-demand audio streams than an album released in 2022, so it wasn't just about a sales decline. The album legit flopped.
As for Kendrick, DAMN was released 5 years ago and did 340M on-demand audio streams. Not thoroughly outdoing those numbers now will be an L because streaming has grown and this album has more tracks. That's how the Ls are being classified.
If a Drake album does 300k tomorrow, even if no one else in the game is doing 200k, people will automatically see it as an L for Drake because it's Drake and because they know what he's used to doing. That's where this all comes from, not because anyone is trying to put Kendrick down.
As for you saying people think Drake's next album will do a million first week, I've personally never seen that and I'd like to assume no one in their right mind is stupid enough to think that will happen.
3rd paragraph is exactly what some of us have been saying. Glad to see that the OP of this thread and main contributor to the toxic discussions in here gets it👏🗣️
So yall can bring up surprise announcement and the genre all you like - these numbers are still pretty horrific for a 7th studio album by Drake.
- Jul 3, 2022·2 replies
So this month basically determines if its Drake Kanye Future or Drake Kanye Baby
What a time to be alive
- Jul 3, 2022VeggieKubernetes
So this month basically determines if its Drake Kanye Future or Drake Kanye Baby
What a time to be alive
🤔
- Jul 3, 2022
Jul 3, 2022·2 repliesTkkenthere are like 3 tracks on 808s that you could call experimental rap
its not really a rap album
its a hiphop album
- CKL TML 🌺Jul 3, 2022szastan03
its a hiphop album
Pop
Jul 3, 20221887Yall call 808s experimental cuz man threw some pop synths in them songs 😂
You're about over 13 years late with this low tier bait lol
- Jul 3, 2022
210k Drake Flop
- Jul 3, 2022
The payola is insane 😭
- Jul 3, 2022·3 replies
Wait for U is back to #1 on US AM.
Drake has now had the most dominant songs on AM in 2015 (Back to Back), 2016 (One Dance), 2018 (God's Plan), 2019 (No Guidance), 2021 (Wants and Needs) & 2022 (Wait for U).
- Jul 3, 2022·1 replythegreatdivine
Wait for U is back to #1 on US AM.
Drake has now had the most dominant songs on AM in 2015 (Back to Back), 2016 (One Dance), 2018 (God's Plan), 2019 (No Guidance), 2021 (Wants and Needs) & 2022 (Wait for U).
Greatest rapper of all time
- Jul 3, 2022thegreatdivine
Wait for U is back to #1 on US AM.
Drake has now had the most dominant songs on AM in 2015 (Back to Back), 2016 (One Dance), 2018 (God's Plan), 2019 (No Guidance), 2021 (Wants and Needs) & 2022 (Wait for U).
King of Rap
- Jul 3, 2022·1 replyVeggieKubernetes
Greatest rapper of all time
One of the smartest moves he's ever made (which he doesn't get enough props for) is not joining with Tidal and siding with Apple Music when it launched. He aligned himself with them and released a lot of music from 2015-2018, which basically established him as the face of the service and he kept giving his fans reasons to engage with his music primarily through Apple Music (OVO Sound Radio premiering new music/exclusives, Hotline Bling video Apple Music exclusive, Views being an Apple Music exclusive for its first two weeks of release, premiering WATTBA/More Life on OVO Sound Radio, etc).
As a result, he's been the biggest artist on that platform since it launched in 2015 and since it has no free-tier service, all his streams from there are premium and he makes more money/pulls streams that weigh more.
Apple Music is now the biggest audio streaming service in the US + it only has a paid/premium-tier so streams weigh more. Great foresight on his part. He could have gone the year without dropping any new music and he'd still end the year as the most streamed artist in the US. This is how its been for him since 2015 and it'll remain that way for the foreseeable future. That's why it's also important to have a great catalog.
- Jul 3, 2022·2 repliesthegreatdivine
One of the smartest moves he's ever made (which he doesn't get enough props for) is not joining with Tidal and siding with Apple Music when it launched. He aligned himself with them and released a lot of music from 2015-2018, which basically established him as the face of the service and he kept giving his fans reasons to engage with his music primarily through Apple Music (OVO Sound Radio premiering new music/exclusives, Hotline Bling video Apple Music exclusive, Views being an Apple Music exclusive for its first two weeks of release, premiering WATTBA/More Life on OVO Sound Radio, etc).
As a result, he's been the biggest artist on that platform since it launched in 2015 and since it has no free-tier service, all his streams from there are premium and he makes more money/pulls streams that weigh more.
Apple Music is now the biggest audio streaming service in the US + it only has a paid/premium-tier so streams weigh more. Great foresight on his part. He could have gone the year without dropping any new music and he'd still end the year as the most streamed artist in the US. This is how its been for him since 2015 and it'll remain that way for the foreseeable future. That's why it's also important to have a great catalog.
What a power move
And from what I understand the AM demographic leans heavily towards hip hop right? Or at least more than Spotify
- Jul 3, 2022VeggieKubernetes
What a power move
And from what I understand the AM demographic leans heavily towards hip hop right? Or at least more than Spotify
Yeah, following Drake aligning with Apple Music during their launch in 2015, most of that hip-hop audience followed right after that. That's a big reason why Apple Music is the preferred platform for rap music.
- Jul 3, 2022·1 reply
Most pop singers have to depend on Spotify for success. Most rappers in the last 6 years drop albums that don't do well on Spotify but Apple Music is there to carry them.
This was from 2019:
In February, Apple Music had 28 million paid subscribers in the United States and Spotify had 26 million, according to the report, which cited people familiar with the matter.
The report also mentioned that Apple Music's worldwide and U.S. growth rates are higher than Spotify's.
cnbc.com/amp/2019/04/05/apple-music-has-reportedly-passed-spotify-in-paid-subscribers-in-the-us.html
I'm sure in the 3+ years since then, the gap has widened and it's impressive when you consider that Apple Music doesn't have a free-tier like Spotify so being able to grow their subscriber-base that rapidly while only offering a paid/premium option is no small feat.
- Jul 3, 2022·2 replies
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- Jul 3, 2022·3 replies
Where’s the Tencent Music discussion itt?