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  • Oct 19, 2020
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    blonded

    People say TPAB is critic bait not MBDTF

    I don't see how tpab would be critic bait

  • Oct 19, 2020

    Oh whait, the beat actually is a little different

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    eversince

    I don't see how tpab would be critic bait

    because, quite simply, critic bait does not mean making an album that appeals to everyone

    it means making an album that would appeal to critics

  • Oct 19, 2020
    eversince

    Kanye West made an album that almost (99%) everybody (casuals, hard core music fans, and critics) would think is perfect. But in reality, everything kanye made before that and afterwards is and was already "perfect" and on mbdtf levels, before mbdtf existed. But since kanye was at all time low, mbdtf was created to show the world "hey, y'all, this is that perfectionism s*** y'all wanted from me, well, here it is!" In a sense, as kanye stated in an interview before, he, "bowed down to the expectations" that kanye created by getting to that level of genius and creativity. so basically kanye made the ideal perfect album to make everybody love him again hehe

    Yep, but that's also not critic bait just trying to serve people
    It doesn't take away what it sounds like, but he knew what he had to do to please the masses on that album, instead of making something he feels he has to make for himself which gets more critique

  • Oct 19, 2020
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    blonded

    How is something critic bait if it appeals to everyone

    exactly! it's so perfect that everybody is like "wow this is amazing"

    but that aint happen with 808s when it dropped

    despite it being as good as mbdtf

  • Oct 19, 2020
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    eversince

    exactly! it's so perfect that everybody is like "wow this is amazing"

    but that aint happen with 808s when it dropped

    despite it being as good as mbdtf

    Do you know what a critic is

    Appealing to everyone is literally not critic bait unless you're going to make the argument that every song on the billboard top 10 is critic bait

  • Oct 19, 2020
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    aLIEN

    not including pablo ofc but ye and jik had some subpar vocals imo, I still like them but he can do better

    He got lazier with the songwriting and rapping

    KSG rapping was on point, but it was only 1 verse per song and there weren't any verses of them trading bars like Jay and Ye did throughout WTT

  • Oct 19, 2020
    blonded

    because, quite simply, critic bait does not mean making an album that appeals to everyone

    it means making an album that would appeal to critics


    that's a good perspective

  • Oct 19, 2020
    eversince

    Mbdtf is critic bait

    imagine lol

  • Oct 19, 2020
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    eversince

    exactly! it's so perfect that everybody is like "wow this is amazing"

    but that aint happen with 808s when it dropped

    despite it being as good as mbdtf

    It's a difference between critic bait and fan service

    Critic bait is like an attempt to shoehorn in ideas that critics appreciate but casual fans won't enjoy as much, while Twisted Fantasy remained very palatable for all

  • Oct 19, 2020

    Man how is Kanye going to let himself get out rapped by f***ing dababy ...

    Wtf is this year

  • Oct 19, 2020

    who here likes this song

  • Oct 19, 2020
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    "Critic bait" talk like it's 2015-2016 KTT all over again

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    yesac

    In what way
    As in his delivery/flow was off or mixing/mastering?

    delivery, his vocals don't blend in with the music as they used to, he sounds less energetic, almost like a less confident version of ye, selah vs og selah is a great example of how much of a difference there can be

  • Oct 19, 2020
    blonded

    "this song actually kinda fire"
    "it grew on me i just need a few listens"
    "honestly i don't see what all that hate's about i love the flow here"
    "yoooo they're just hating on kanye cuz it's cool atm.."

  • Oct 19, 2020
    Goo

    "Critic bait" talk like it's 2015-2016 KTT all over again

    very cohesive critic bait, almost makes LR and CD listenable

  • Oct 19, 2020
    Goo

    He got lazier with the songwriting and rapping

    KSG rapping was on point, but it was only 1 verse per song and there weren't any verses of them trading bars like Jay and Ye did throughout WTT

    ksg rapping was a return to form

  • Oct 19, 2020

    dababy sounding decent makes the beat sound worse

  • Oct 19, 2020
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    aLIEN
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    delivery, his vocals don't blend in with the music as they used to, he sounds less energetic, almost like a less confident version of ye, selah vs og selah is a great example of how much of a difference there can be

    Bc he records like this nowadays:

    Sitting on a couch and freestyling off top, ofc he sounds tired and bored as s***

  • Oct 19, 2020
    blonded

    Do you know what a critic is

    Appealing to everyone is literally not critic bait unless you're going to make the argument that every song on the billboard top 10 is critic bait

    idk seems like kanye got the critics on his side for a bit after mbdtf... some good bait


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  • Oct 19, 2020
    Goo

    Bc he records like this nowadays:

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZm-UaWzdII

    Sitting on a couch and freestyling off top, ofc he sounds tired and bored as s***

    Thats bs

  • Oct 19, 2020
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    Goo

    Bc he records like this nowadays:

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZm-UaWzdII

    Sitting on a couch and freestyling off top, ofc he sounds tired and bored as s***

    yep, he needs to take his time again

  • Oct 19, 2020
    blonded

    People say TPAB is critic bait not MBDTF

    wut

  • Oct 19, 2020
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    yesac

    It's a difference between critic bait and fan service

    Critic bait is like an attempt to shoehorn in ideas that critics appreciate but casual fans won't enjoy as much, while Twisted Fantasy remained very palatable for all

    so tpab was made for the music nerds and not the masses

  • Oct 19, 2020
    eversince

    so tpab was made for the music nerds and not the masses

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