People say TPAB is critic bait not MBDTF
I don't see how tpab would be critic bait
I don't see how tpab would be critic bait
because, quite simply, critic bait does not mean making an album that appeals to everyone
it means making an album that would appeal to critics
Kanye West made an album that almost (99%) everybody (casuals, hard core music fans, and critics) would think is perfect. But in reality, everything kanye made before that and afterwards is and was already "perfect" and on mbdtf levels, before mbdtf existed. But since kanye was at all time low, mbdtf was created to show the world "hey, y'all, this is that perfectionism s*** y'all wanted from me, well, here it is!" In a sense, as kanye stated in an interview before, he, "bowed down to the expectations" that kanye created by getting to that level of genius and creativity. so basically kanye made the ideal perfect album to make everybody love him again hehe
Yep, but that's also not critic bait just trying to serve people
It doesn't take away what it sounds like, but he knew what he had to do to please the masses on that album, instead of making something he feels he has to make for himself which gets more critique
How is something critic bait if it appeals to everyone
exactly! it's so perfect that everybody is like "wow this is amazing"
but that aint happen with 808s when it dropped
despite it being as good as mbdtf
exactly! it's so perfect that everybody is like "wow this is amazing"
but that aint happen with 808s when it dropped
despite it being as good as mbdtf
Do you know what a critic is
Appealing to everyone is literally not critic bait unless you're going to make the argument that every song on the billboard top 10 is critic bait
not including pablo ofc but ye and jik had some subpar vocals imo, I still like them but he can do better
He got lazier with the songwriting and rapping
KSG rapping was on point, but it was only 1 verse per song
and there weren't any verses of them trading bars like Jay and Ye did throughout WTT
because, quite simply, critic bait does not mean making an album that appeals to everyone
it means making an album that would appeal to critics

that's a good perspective
exactly! it's so perfect that everybody is like "wow this is amazing"
but that aint happen with 808s when it dropped
despite it being as good as mbdtf
It's a difference between critic bait and fan service
Critic bait is like an attempt to shoehorn in ideas that critics appreciate but casual fans won't enjoy as much, while Twisted Fantasy remained very palatable for all
Man how is Kanye going to let himself get out rapped by f***ing dababy ...
Wtf is this year
In what way
As in his delivery/flow was off or mixing/mastering?
delivery, his vocals don't blend in with the music as they used to, he sounds less energetic, almost like a less confident version of ye, selah vs og selah is a great example of how much of a difference there can be
"this song actually kinda fire"
"it grew on me i just need a few listens"
"honestly i don't see what all that hate's about i love the flow here"
"yoooo they're just hating on kanye cuz it's cool atm.."

"Critic bait" talk like it's 2015-2016 KTT all over again
very cohesive critic bait, almost makes LR and CD listenable
He got lazier with the songwriting and rapping
KSG rapping was on point, but it was only 1 verse per song
and there weren't any verses of them trading bars like Jay and Ye did throughout WTT
ksg rapping was a return to form
delivery, his vocals don't blend in with the music as they used to, he sounds less energetic, almost like a less confident version of ye, selah vs og selah is a great example of how much of a difference there can be
Bc he records like this nowadays:

Sitting on a couch and freestyling off top, ofc he sounds tired and bored as s***
Do you know what a critic is
Appealing to everyone is literally not critic bait unless you're going to make the argument that every song on the billboard top 10 is critic bait
idk seems like kanye got the critics on his side for a bit after mbdtf... some good bait
Bc he records like this nowadays:
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZm-UaWzdIISitting on a couch and freestyling off top, ofc he sounds tired and bored as s***
Thats bs
Bc he records like this nowadays:
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZm-UaWzdIISitting on a couch and freestyling off top, ofc he sounds tired and bored as s***
yep, he needs to take his time again
It's a difference between critic bait and fan service
Critic bait is like an attempt to shoehorn in ideas that critics appreciate but casual fans won't enjoy as much, while Twisted Fantasy remained very palatable for all
so tpab was made for the music nerds and not the masses