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  • Dec 2, 2022
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    capnchronic

    He said "the Holocaust was not what happened, let's look at the facts of that".

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1598416479112032256

    Yeah I'm just wondering what particular kind of holocaust denier he is. Like does he think 0 jews died, is he a "a couple hundred thousand but not 6 million" person, or does he just think Hitler wasn't culpable?

  • Dec 2, 2022
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    It's still very suspect to me that people talked over Ye hardcore whenever he came close to Holocaust denial, really came across as wanting to protect his image

  • Dec 2, 2022
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    yesac

    I don't know what the f*** you're talking about but taking away the contracts and the music and his freedom of speech minimises his voice and influence, they should do everything in their power to minimise his voice and influence which means taking his music off Spotify so he doesn't have the money to amplify his own voice that comes from the music he makes from it, is that simple enough for you?

    okay let me put it very simple for you since you're on some stupid lib "just cancel him and then he's done, guys" s***.

    simpler logic. he lose 99% of networth, still say nazi thing. money not depend on streams. still rich and famous. still say nazi thing. understand?

  • Dec 2, 2022
    sniper
    https://twitter.com/guardianmusic/status/1598470769193156610

    there it is

  • Dec 2, 2022
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    babylon sherm

    Yeah I'm just wondering what particular kind of holocaust denier he is. Like does he think 0 jews died, is he a "a couple hundred thousand but not 6 million" person, or does he just think Hitler wasn't culpable?

    I thought he might be a 'Hitler didn't TECHNICALLY kill them' guy after his first comment, but that second one, along with the Jews 'controlling the history books' comment make me think he at least thinks there's a conspiracy to inflate the numbers, something his good buddy Nick also believes

  • Dec 2, 2022
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    Jihyo

    I’m gonna say it. Hitler has always been respected as a leader and as people rallier amongst historians. It isn’t a new idea to try and discuss some of the positive aspects of his character. Of course he used his talent to do terrible things but that isn’t the point.

    As a Jewish person I see what Kanye is trying to do and it isn’t the first time I’ve seen/heard this so it isn’t as shocking to me. I just feel like he isn’t in the right space mentally to articulate his ideas in a way that they’ll be taken seriously.

    Everyone has already painted him as a guy in a manic episode off his meds or as a blatant racist. He’s just digging a deeper hole by saying this kind of stuff now. It would help if he didn’t break out into puppet shows in the middle of his interviews.

    Jihyo pack in the air

  • Dec 2, 2022
    safe

    Jihyo pack in the air

  • Fries

    It's still very suspect to me that people talked over Ye hardcore whenever he came close to Holocaust denial, really came across as wanting to protect his image

    I mean the NDAs go back how long? 4-5 years? That we know of currently? There's been so much covering of all asses involved for so long. Not to bloviate but in general rap is so young as a genre that we won't hear the real firsthand accounts of unfiltered megastar history for a long time

  • Dec 2, 2022
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    rami

    okay let me put it very simple for you since you're on some stupid lib "just cancel him and then he's done, guys" s***.

    simpler logic. he lose 99% of networth, still say nazi thing. money not depend on streams. still rich and famous. still say nazi thing. understand?

    "on some lib s***" I know what you are

    Simple maths: Take away his income sources + take away his relevancy of being on popular streaming platforms = his voice will not be so relevant and loud, there will no longer be a conversation about him when he's irrelevant

    Streams is just one income source but like Forbes said his catalogue is a big part of his wealth, stop being so stubborn

  • Dec 2, 2022
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    Weird question but what jacket brand is this

  • Dec 2, 2022
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    rami

    okay let me put it very simple for you since you're on some stupid lib "just cancel him and then he's done, guys" s***.

    simpler logic. he lose 99% of networth, still say nazi thing. money not depend on streams. still rich and famous. still say nazi thing. understand?

    Canceling really never works unless you can curb stomp a career before it begins to grow

  • Dec 2, 2022
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    yesac

    "on some lib s***" I know what you are

    Simple maths: Take away his income sources + take away his relevancy of being on popular streaming platforms = his voice will not be so relevant and loud, there will no longer be a conversation about him when he's irrelevant

    Streams is just one income source but like Forbes said his catalogue is a big part of his wealth, stop being so stubborn

    You are posting on ktt ... 2

    KTT 2.

  • Dec 2, 2022
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    RXHalfDeadCaliban

    Canceling really never works unless you can curb stomp a career before it begins to grow

    it's not even canceling. taking his music off streaming will just not do anything about this

  • Dec 2, 2022
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    rami

    it's not even canceling. taking his music off streaming will just not do anything about this

    R Kelly still relevant to this day.

  • Dec 2, 2022
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    RXHalfDeadCaliban

    You are posting on ktt ... 2

    KTT 2.

    this site isnt a Ye fan site, it's not YTT

  • Dec 2, 2022
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    Taking his music off streaming is wild

    Especially when he’s allowed to be on Twitter and when these bum ass publications and figures keep giving him air time and attention

  • Jihyo

    I’m gonna say it. Hitler has always been respected as a leader and as people rallier amongst historians. It isn’t a new idea to try and discuss some of the positive aspects of his character. Of course he used his talent to do terrible things but that isn’t the point.

    As a Jewish person I see what Kanye is trying to do and it isn’t the first time I’ve seen/heard this so it isn’t as shocking to me. I just feel like he isn’t in the right space mentally to articulate his ideas in a way that they’ll be taken seriously.

    Everyone has already painted him as a guy in a manic episode off his meds or as a blatant racist. He’s just digging a deeper hole by saying this kind of stuff now. It would help if he didn’t break out into puppet shows in the middle of his interviews.

    Let's keep the Hitler praise to a minimum and honestly I've never seen positive Hitler comments from any real historians. This type of s*** you're talking about is exclusively on places like 4chan and reddit or youtube comments but not from actual historians themselves. We need some sources if you're serious next time

  • Dec 2, 2022

    when does the ktt2 rebrand happen

  • Dec 2, 2022
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    It’s honestly interesting to see the discussion over whether a platform should remove an artist or not especially w/ someone as prolific as Ye, not even some full time legacy act

  • Dec 2, 2022
    afterimage

    It’s honestly interesting to see the discussion over whether a platform should remove an artist or not especially w/ someone as prolific as Ye, not even some full time legacy act

    Like seeing who would want Ye removed or not

  • Dec 2, 2022
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    RXHalfDeadCaliban

    R Kelly still relevant to this day.

    no one is cancelled completely there'll always be d***riders (you're giving off that vibe rn) that hang on tight but saying R Kelly is relevant in any meaningful way is silly

  • Dec 2, 2022
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    yesac

    this site isnt a Ye fan site, it's not YTT

    ... you're taking about subduing someone's influence that has already seeped into a culture for 20+ years.

    By removing music and stopping funding.

  • Dec 2, 2022
    safe

    Taking his music off streaming is wild

    Especially when he’s allowed to be on Twitter and when these bum ass publications and figures keep giving him air time and attention

    take him off everything, don't give him air to breathe

  • Dec 2, 2022
    RXHalfDeadCaliban

    ... you're taking about subduing someone's influence that has already seeped into a culture for 20+ years.

    By removing music and stopping funding.

    idol worship is a curse on society