Bobby_96

3y

This. Wayne has more direct biters and clones who emulate his voice, rapping style, and look. Even Bino and Kendrick used to directly bite Wayne in their earlier projects.

Kanye has more influence on the soundscape though especially with 808's, Yeezus, and Graduation. So many rap albums including some released this year bit the production from that sound.

One could argue that Kanye helped birthed the Blog Era of hip hop too especially after his symbolic defeat of "gangsta rap" albeit I always felt that narrative was a bit exaggerated.

Edit: Wayne even influenced Eminem to use more punchlines in his rapping especially around the Recovery era.

Plight

3y

2pac was a real man. Kanye is a Hollywood b****.

Malafe

3y

I don’t see it. Wayne has more impact on the modern rap scene.

Drake and Travis are two of his most successful sons, but they also owe a large chunk of their influence to Wayne/Budden/R&B artists and kid cudi respectively

ryuH

3y

People are programmed to have certain opinions they don’t even make an opinion based off of their own judgement

But yeah obviously Ye

etuev

3y

2pac. I think a lot of people will say Kanye just because of recency bias and the fact that the level to which 2pac influenced hip hop is so great that it's foundational and taken for granted. What with the thug and gangsta image yet with the dichotomy of also being able to do softer more introspective songs. That's the template most popular hip hop artists have followed nowadays. Considering that he did that in such a short amount of time being famous, hes had a disproportionate influence.

Kanye has definitely had a huge amount of influence, probably in the top 3 impact wise, but I think his recent behaviour will tarnish his image and push the next generation of artists away from him in terms of being influenced by him

Slutdog

3y

Bro when Kanye dies, this won't even be a discussion

etuev

3y

Wym? As in he'll be regarded as more influential? I think it's a bit dismissive to imply that death makes the influence what it is

etuev

3y

Kanye definitely helped to commercialize and popularize the genre. Some would argue water down as a result

ExpensiveOrNot

3y

Kanye for sure and it’s not even close.

There’s more people listening to music today than there was in the 90’s because streaming makes it easier.

There’s also more people today than in the 90s because well, you know population has increased we all know this.

Kanye has a larger discography and also has explored more deeply into different genres/fusions. Not that Tupac didn’t do this of course it’s just Kanye had more time to do it since he’s still alive.

Slutdog

3y

I think you aren't seeing things in an unbiased way because Tupac is dead and Kanye is still with us and is very controversial right now. Once Kanye passes away, this won't even be a question looking back at his legacy

kidsaredumb

3y

Aftermath already did that by the time Ye dropped College Dropout

etuev

3y

Once Kanye passes away his legacy will be looked at as a whole package and not just his pre 2013 output. Usually with more emphasis put on his more recent antics. I disagree but we will see

etuev

3y

Radio tho

mr get dough

3y

Why are u saying cmon

Like if u pick Ye thats fine but yall gotta stop disrespecting Pac thats clown s***

Pac inspired Ye nigga

Slutdog

3y

And Ice Cube inspired Pac. So based on your logic, do you think Ice Cube is more influential then both Pac and Kanye? Cmon now

kidsaredumb

3y

Ye ain’t even as influential as 50 Cent let alone Pac

Slutdog

3y

And Ice Cube inspired Pac. So based on your logic, do you think Ice Cube is more influential then both Pac and Kanye? Cmon now

Slutdog

3y

nice troll

mr get dough

3y

I never said Pac was more influential than Ye, I said Pac should be respected. Him being brought up shouldnt be treated as ridiculous

And yes obviously Ice Cube should be respected, he inspired many greats including Pac and Kanye

Slutdog

3y

Kanye inspired literally the biggest artists of our generation and yall want me to believe that Pac and 50 cent beating him

Slutdog

3y

No doubt but putting him beside Kanye is just setting him up for scrutiny

mr get dough

3y

Not really Pac was a big influence on a lot of people which is why it’s such a debate

Pac was a big influence on Eminem, 50 Cent, Kanye West himself, Lil Wayne, Kendrick Lamar, even Jay Z and Biggie and they had beef and many others. I think his influence can go toe to toe with anybody

But Kanye is up there too which is why I’m not saying Pac is bigger, people need to be more open minded to other peoples perspectives.