because drake and ye’s relationship was too personal for it to ever be a good idea to let it go far like kendrick vs drake
kendrick has no strong affiliation or relationship with drake so he could let the handbrakes go way easier

Facts Only

bringing up a 2 decade old song in this discussion is crazy

donda1 is good

donda2 is garbage

jik is garbage with like a very small of cool to good songs

ye is ass besides like one or two songs

most of tlop is mid although it has really high highs that "makeup" for it (also its whole development was a mess and the start of kanye's "laziness" creatively)

ksg i do like as well too tho

most of this sucks

and wyoming era was the start of his real mania and where he actually took over and hurt a lot of projects. which made teyana leave, ignored big sean and completely changed daytona that was suppose to be the pentultima of pusha's solo career with king push. which daytona has some really amazing songs, but its a fact it became part of kanyes obsession with drake and he cut so much out. and the nas album also got f***ed over the same way but turned out fully trash.

its been a whole lot of mid to ass with shines and points of dope and great

anyone else with this batting average yall would be way harder on, but i know it comes with the territory of the incarnation of the site itself

he is great, but has been downhill for the most part a lil over 10 years that has literally gotten worst damn near every year

Drake during his 2020 rap radar interview speaking about Kanye and Pusha T

“I don’t even know these guys”

and culturally music wise, the last thing kanye had was tlop for the general public

My guy there’s been tons of musicians (black & white) that have had massively influential music and great Discogs

Again, Kanye is obviously a goat but boosting his ego the way you are is what got him acting like this in the first place

Comparing his business ventures to Apple or Disney is also f***ing ridiculous. Yeezy was worth 2 billion at its height (and I promise you it’s never gonna get there again) Apple and Disney are worth trillions

And popularity wise it’s not even close. Yeezy was a big brand but not even close to the cultural impact Apple and Disney products have had. Like not even close bro. I appreciated Ye’s ambition to get there but he was never at that level

ye so real for this

real confused

TLOP isn’t a classic but that’s a discussion for another day.

yeah Cee Lo doesnt get enough credit for merging the two forms so well

People give Ye too much grace for all of the mediocre music he’s released in recent memory

Majority of his verses have been lazy and half baked for several years now

We will not be there to discuss that nonsense take

donda sold 310k in 5 days dude it was a huge comeback album

And I don’t think Kanye even knew what he meant when he would compare himself to those people

He’s like Trump, He just starts yapping

the way some of these niggas act like nazi's have nothing to do with them is beyond dumb asl

they hate, killed and enslaved YOU TOO LOL

which is also why its beyond stupid for kanye to have a fascination for them, even if you "dont care about jews" lol - you are seen just as "vile" to them too, some ways even "worst"

Everyone who has been with it long enough knows that his decline started with TLOP

i don’t even disagree with most of that but there’s a lot of good music in that whole pool so i can’t in good faith call it ass

all of dungeon family gets overlooked when they are so important

DOT I GOT YOU

maybe at that specific moment he didn’t know him anymore but he was literally his next door neighbour and talked about going to his house all the time back in 2016, you really think they had no personal relationship?