no human being is capable of thinking for themselves. we have no free will. any religious, spiritual, and philosophical discussion is pointless. if it seems that someone's mind has been changed or influenced, then it's only an illusion. this is what determinism is, more specifically theological determinism.

Losing brain cells in this thread.

Sancte Augustine/Aquinas, Ora pro nobis

Not to be condescending but proving that Jesus was a highly evolved Soul means what exactly? he’s known for speaking in parables him being an initiate in esoteric circles is no surprise, only the few had the privilege to be within his presence during his time on earth and understand his message or at least grasp his claims to Divinity.

There were a plethora of reasons why people disliked Jesus, singling just one piece as the cause of his death- yes they indeed could’ve been historical factors- but deducing it to just politics is extremely naive of u. ultimately you neglect that Jesus’ final act was one of necessity and he was very much aware of it: to die on the cross for the sake of humanity’s spiritual evolution; he fulfilled his purpose… s***s like splitting hairs bruh

And ofc his sphere of influence expanded universally so now anyone with a pulse can enter the kingdoms of heaven within and begin self initiation process when before access to spiritual knowledge used to be gate kept via mystery schools and ancient traditions. Modern enlightenment is nothing like what sages and priests underwent thousands of years ago.

we on similar wavelengths @op

Real asf

Have u ever read a hindu text

All spirituality threads/discussions/discourse are banal cause its just westerners fetishizing Buddhism and Hinduism

an illusion in what sense? That the change itself never actually took place? Or that the result of the change was inevitable? Genuinely asking, I don’t know much about determinism

it's like it never took place and it's inevitable. it's an illusion, but it's very persistent.

Its hard to understand what the hindu texts really mean but some can do it and i believe myself to be one, although its been a few years since i actively read that stuff

im an intellectual dialectical heterosexual
liable to turn a nigga into a vegetable
on some crossdressing s***, im liable to go skiiirrtt if the wrong nigga pull up next to me
pull up to the spot, have yo girl sweating and thirsty like she on scstacy

To be or not to be, that is the question
to pee or not to pee, when you wake up with an erection
i bet you reading this and don't understand the direction,
that a nigga going in, sitting on his moolah like a nigga got a pension
I stand on my square like the sponge from bikini bottom
i'm like squidward with the clarinet when i see her bikini bottom
Step to her like yo yo ma, but i ain't no cellist
her nigga got mad, that nigga was jealous
had to tell him he was being overzealous,
better calm down before i put a nigga on reddit,
on some publicfreakout s***,
no diddy, she take a nigga pumps on some reebok s***

I'm lyrically autistic, liable to go ballistic
the acne is cystic,
f*** you and your whole heuristic
shorty might be a stud but she cant get enough of this d***,
and that's word to my nigga richard,
you ain't never meet a nigga that's richer,
i roll with magicians from my guild, they call me the switcher
no funny s***, a nigga got more priors than richard

my special interest is stunting on these hoes,
on some OCD s***, can't leave the house without my rolls
I trust all my day ones, they solid in they roles
keep that kush burning like a candle on the stove
call it paper, call it cheese, we got it in droves
got forbid i ever choose a thot before the bros
I comes correct on some johnny sins s***
after that tell a b**** get out on some key and peele s***
hit the mall after the afters we was out shopping for some clothes
shorty was confused - we rich niggas, ain't no such thing as closed

im a vulgar philosopher,
talk shorty out her draws like a coochie ambassador
i've had diplomatic relations with women in high places,
that's a euphemism, it means i stuck my rod in the right places,
brand new veneers look like a nigga had braces
on some formula 1 s***, got a b**** of every races

Yes brother

It means and changes a lot.

Christians have made him God and put him on this pedestal. They reduce his message to "he died for our sins, to be saved we must admit that and admit he rose again".

This takes away from his message. Following him and believing in him changes meaning also. Follow him becomes do as he did. Do the work and discover who you really are and become one with God.

I agree with what you're saying but you've put words into my mouth that weren't there. I did not say this was the ONLY reason in my post but it's a possible reason that is never spoken of so I've highlighted it.

Yes he disagreed with the Essene way of separating from the others to remain pure. He mingled with the sinners because his message was important and needed to be heard.

The temple sacrifice system was lucrative and Jesus would have known that if he got in the way of that it would mean death. He would have also known how popular he was. He would have known his story would ring out for years. I haven't taken anything away from any of that, I'm just providing further information and context that is severely overlooked

Gonna make a post about orthogonality and how different concepts relate to eachother mathematically soon

Concepts form a graph where edges are connections between related concepts and the more edges connect to a concept the more it correlates with other concepts (cardinality/node centrality)

If two concepts are orthogonal that means that they are opposites in altleast one aspect i.e. light and zero point energy (basically what creates gravity via the interaction generated by void vs. Light and Matter i.e. condensed light, zero point energy being like microscopic black holes that pull energy inward or push energy outward based on the direction they spin in. Zeropoint energy only exists due to void i.e. space that houses no light/matter).

This basic existence of two contradictory forces spawns all of duality. It is the physical manifestation of duality

Numbers represent reality. 1 is light, 0 is void. 0 is matter, 1 is mind. 2 is duality, born from the pairing of the opposite forces, which is the concept of orthogonality in a geometric mathematical sense or the expression of energy itself which is produced by the friction of the opposing forces. 2 is love and hate. Big and small. All concepts are connected to all of these binary concepts, as any complex entity be it a noun or adjective, any concept can be described in atleast one way as the opposite of another. concept.i.e. socks vs barefoot (orthogonal in the sense that one is clothed and one is bare). Laptop vs computer (orthogonal in the sense that one is mobile and one isnt). You can find a concept that is opposite in some sense from another in atleast one way for all concepts.

Then we have 3, which represents balance and in a physical sense the existence of space itself, 3 represents the exchange of energy, this sort of dance that generates motion, or vibration as it is described by the esotericists

This brings life to the idea of distance, which is the result of how these concepts begin to attract or repel eachother over time. This is the idea of platonic solids, which can be described as infinite dimensional objects or areas within an infinite dimensional graph or space of concepts. The closer two things are the more interaction they have via the friction of the void energy colliding with the light energy. In a conceptual sense this just describes the magnitude of the contradiction between concepts. This creates an ever evolving pull and push force between concepts that represents the number 4 i.e. time. Now we have constructed the totality of the forces which define reality as we know it.

Back to orthogonality, the edges between concepts forms an ever expanding geometric lattice structure that is in essence the god of this world, or a unit of consciousness we are bound within, like fish in a body of water. We cannot experience that which this organism doesnt know of. But by evolving we constantly expand this organisms reach. The physical and energetic expansion of the universe is evidence of this process in a physical form (vs a mental form, physicality and mentalism being born from the core orthogonality i.e. contradiction). Never forget that all is mind. That which we think is born from that which is real in the mental plane and vice versa. But also know this realm is one of many and the traits and characteristics of this realm do not necessarily reflect those of the ultimate god. And know we are very likely not alone in this realm.

Basically

Literally dumb asf

Spirituality cant be discussed because we arent indian has to be the dumbest thing ive ever read

great reply

I mean nothing is new under the sun, a lot of the spiritual talks we have today reflect teaching centuries before us

That’s not what I’m saying, I just think Westerns forget to look at the source of these ideas and where exactly are they talked about in fullness