Unbelievable that people will champion normalizing being deplatformed from society in response to speech of any kind. Just wait till people who don’t agree with things you say are in power.
Y'all just need to come out and say y'all don't understand the words y'all use
Hate speech can be defined as calling for violence on groups
It usually has to have the factor of calling for violence
Plenty of public figures have gone on racist, homophobic anti-jewish rants but it didn't fit the definition of hate speech
Mel Gibson for example, definitely hates Jews but I don't recall him asking for Jews to be bombed or harmed or discriminated against
Ye has held these anti-jew sentiments for a while but crossed a serious line with the defcon tweet, not clarifying it and doubling down with more bigotry
Afaik, he has never called for violence against black people despite harboring resentment towards the Black community for whatever reason
I'd like to point out that some countries will fine an individual for hate speech
Meaning that some countries have legally introduced definitions: where hate speech begins and ends,
Numerous scholars and lawmakers find that those definitions fit the moral landscape their country wants to achieve, ideally
In France for example u can get fined for calling people racial slurs,hate speech or denying recognized genocides
(Look up the John Galliano scandal)
Just like any law in the West if people wanted to protest it they legally could do so
However they seldom do since those laws derived from a general sense of morality within the population based on it's History
The only people ever conflating the condemnation of hate speech (wether it be legally or morally) with restricting freedom of speech seem to always do it to justify someone being a bigot
It's very nasty and disrespectful to everyone's intelligence to try and play the normalization of hate speech and bigotry as a noble fight for freedom of speech, the same freedom of speech that has never been in jeopardy especially not in the USA......
I took my time to reply in length because I'm still giving u the benefit of the doubt but please educate yourself on these notions if u aren't an agent for alt-right rethoric so you won't be out here advocating for s*** that is of disservice to you and everyone else imho
How about like raping or killing someone? Or any other physical action? I can’t believe y’all acting like he committed the crime of the century
literally what are you talking about my man. raping? killing? aren't we talking about things kanye west said or did prior to this that should have been a bigger deal according to this cartoon avi having ass?
Parasites on real enterprise
Unironically thinking workers and the petty-bourgeois have similar interests in mind
I agree, but no one was arguing that equivalency in the first place
Rhetoric still influences action
Do you remember any child s***traffickers, serial rapists, or mass murderers getting tossed from the banking system?
They should invest and share the risk of business
Lmao have you heard of investment banking? JP Morgan has one of the largest and extensive portfolios
They don’t just simply eat up money with 0 risk
I think the point here though is JP Morgan does work with actual companies funding real war machines and destroying lives so by their moral obligations why do they work with them
All banks do that & even reg businesses lol also i didnt think the user was talking about just the bank situation
Big diff between saying a lot of crime is being committed and then saying black people is committing all the crime, not hard/
but its the same as most buisnesses lol, public optics. their war & slave labor exploits arent publicized but their connection to kanye is.
Also lol if yall think Kanye is even a fraction of contributing to their overall wealth, trust me them war deals and govt funding is way more by a vast amount.
Kanyes money isnt s*** to them especially if its f***ing up the overall business and/or making buisness partners that actually matter mad.
This type of power from banks isnt anything new either, its one of the reason people originally rebelled against modern banks in the first place. Lot of control over your livelihood including your house & your car beyond even just physical money. They can freeze or deny you for almost anything legally.
Unironically thinking workers and the petty-bourgeois have similar interests in mind
Communism is a deception
why wouldn't THIS be the last straw. what would be a bigger straw than this. cartoon avi
He could be doing sketchy financial stuff or didn’t hold up their part of the bargain
Don’t think there’s anything to indicate here that this is the sole or primary bank account for the company
I could also lowkey see this being a minor account that Kanye let lapse so he could publish this to make himself look more persecuted than he is
It’s either that or something bigger behind the scenes because there’s no way they shut down a large account over this
Do you remember any child s***traffickers, serial rapists, or mass murderers getting tossed from the banking system?
Honestly, I don’t think they kicked him out for his rhetoric alone, might be something else we don’t know
Also his wealth is fine, he has enough offshore accounts in Switzerland and the Caribbean to keep on going
Losing 1 Kanye is like losing 100,000 average customers They clearly can afford to shed quite a few of us.
Lol bro banks aren’t going to create a social media monitoring division to ensure Timothy isn’t tweeting anything bad to his 20 followers
Unbelievable that people will champion normalizing being deplatformed from society in response to speech of any kind. Just wait till people who don’t agree with things you say are in power.
These people are straight up defending getting cut off from a basic service such as banking over mean words
F***ing idiots
Honestly, I don’t think they kicked him out for his rhetoric alone, might be something else we don’t know
Also his wealth is fine, he has enough offshore accounts in Switzerland and the Caribbean to keep on going
That’s fair but most here have been cheering JP Morgan on under the assumption that it’s just cause of the hate speech
Not saying I agree with the banks I dont think anyone should be literally freezed besides the highest of offenders but unfortunately its the highest offenders that barely get bothered, bank speaking.
And banks are still considered a private business which in USA grants a lot of protection & permits.
govt funding, generational family wealth, fees & deals
Investment banking and mortgage lending
They gonna kill ye the same way they killed jfk (bars)
why ppl think this, what would they even kill ye for?
Holy s*** what a stupid thread.
literally what are you talking about my man. raping? killing? aren't we talking about things kanye west said or did prior to this that should have been a bigger deal according to this cartoon avi having ass?
My bad I just saw your final straw post not the one you replied to
why ppl think this, what would they even kill ye for?
They think there’s a Jewish conspiracy out to get him that controls his life by planting child actors into his house