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  • BlueDream

    Most people really aren’t ready to have that convo, but the decline really did start in 2016

    So many people have nostalgia for that era because it was “fun” . But this was when rappers really stopped caring about having a genuine good verse. It started to become more about “vibes “

    And music listeners ate that up, so then up and coming rappers didn’t need to actually rap well anymore to blow up.
    And that’s why hip hop is in its current state

    And I’m not saying there wasn’t good music during this era, but this was when lyrics stopped mattering

    strongly agreed.

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    the difference was people hated the snap era enough that the big rappers of that era wasn't kotowing to that ala Drake and a Toosie Slide

    that's the difference.

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    insertcoolnamehere

    the difference was people hated the snap era enough that the big rappers of that era wasn't kotowing to that ala Drake and a Toosie Slide

    that's the difference.

    And those people were corny for hating. If E-40 can rap his ass off and make club music why couldn’t anyone else? It’s that northeast rapper mindset that really screwed the game up. Yall were having fun in the 80’s but when the south was doing it in the 00’s it’s a problem lol

  • BlueDream

    Most people really aren’t ready to have that convo, but the decline really did start in 2016

    So many people have nostalgia for that era because it was “fun” . But this was when rappers really stopped caring about having a genuine good verse. It started to become more about “vibes “

    And music listeners ate that up, so then up and coming rappers didn’t need to actually rap well anymore to blow up.
    And that’s why hip hop is in its current state

    And I’m not saying there wasn’t good music during this era, but this was when lyrics stopped mattering

    Lyrics always matter the problem isnt lyrics its the sound itself. It became more edm than hip hop and since then the only innovation has been how loud and distorted can u make the 808

  • All of them had better rap careers than Joe budden

  • Poolboy Q

    Wayne’s and Kanye’s are once in a lifetime artists. We don’t get that s*** every 3 years.

    Its 8 billion mufuckas on this planet u tellin me we only get one legend every what 5-10 years? The problem is the way the industry works not the artists talent

  • raps

    This is cope to not acknowledge we collectively as a culture started letting niggas get big 3 rapper perks (carti uzi yachty) without big 3 rap skills

    Are Cudi Lupe Pharrell etc also “once in a lifetime” artists because they also said f*** just giving in to imitating niggas half their age and continued to make dope s*** that served as the foundation to the blog era? Lol niggas be making excuses

    Ayo u nailed it lowkey

  • Niggamortis

    Ayo why he got a string in his ass

  • chowder

    Ktt doing the performative bit and pretending like this is new info cuz I said Budden

    Like most ppl on here haven’t been saying most these cats out their prime, or openly mock yachty

    Didn’t realize we had so many Denzel f***ing Curry fans on ktt! vapid contrarianism

    Top 3 worst posts in ktt history

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    raps

    This is cope to not acknowledge we collectively as a culture started letting niggas get big 3 rapper perks (carti uzi yachty) without big 3 rap skills

    Are Cudi Lupe Pharrell etc also “once in a lifetime” artists because they also said f*** just giving in to imitating niggas half their age and continued to make dope s*** that served as the foundation to the blog era? Lol niggas be making excuses

    nobody replying to this lmao

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    Hazyeyefreakmonstr

    Ayo why he got a string in his ass

    mic pack wire prolly.

  • insertcoolnamehere

    nobody replying to this lmao

    Why u say that

    Seems like a reasonable post to me

  • insertcoolnamehere

    mic pack wire prolly.

    Ig we will have to give him the benefit of the doubt

  • Poolboy Q

    And those people were corny for hating. If E-40 can rap his ass off and make club music why couldn’t anyone else? It’s that northeast rapper mindset that really screwed the game up. Yall were having fun in the 80’s but when the south was doing it in the 00’s it’s a problem lol

    The modern south turned fun into the main event. So when the south dominated, fun dominated. And that's where the problems began. It's a nuanced conversation and we gotta have it without yall niggas having a chip on yall shoulder lol

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    Hazyeyefreakmonstr

    Why u say that

    Seems like a reasonable post to me

    which is why no one'll have a rebuttal to it lmao

  • Poolboy Q

    And those people were corny for hating. If E-40 can rap his ass off and make club music why couldn’t anyone else? It’s that northeast rapper mindset that really screwed the game up. Yall were having fun in the 80’s but when the south was doing it in the 00’s it’s a problem lol

    As a statistically inclined person i think this is a little dishonest, youre sampling one point in history as if it in totality defines an entire group of people, thats not how the world works, like the other dude said its more nuanced

  • insertcoolnamehere

    which is why no one'll have a rebuttal to it lmao

    That just means he won and no one is clever enough to come up with a retort