Jun 1·2 replies
DaeHanIf you’re going on pure numbers - then ok.
I never claimed that Jay was the biggest selling rapper.
What im saying is that he’s (still) more relevant than those other rappers, even without having dropped an album in 9 years.
Not sure why you’re trying so hard to downplay Jay lol. I like Nas, Em, etc.
We don’t have to downplay a rapper to prop others up
What objective metric are you using to determine relevance?
Aside from how a 60 year old man makes you feel in your body
Jun 1JAY Z is GOAT, I want to see him live so bad
Rappers third of his age have none of this energy
Jun 1·1 replyDaeHanIf you’re going on pure numbers - then ok.
I never claimed that Jay was the biggest selling rapper.
What im saying is that he’s (still) more relevant than those other rappers, even without having dropped an album in 9 years.
Not sure why you’re trying so hard to downplay Jay lol. I like Nas, Em, etc.
We don’t have to downplay a rapper to prop others up
He really hates jay z
Also young people in general are so conditioned to be rooted in comparison that they think someone cannot be good and win unless someone else is bad and loses.
- Jun 1·1 replyJim Halpert
He really hates jay z
Also young people in general are so conditioned to be rooted in comparison that they think someone cannot be good and win unless someone else is bad and loses.
What on earth are you talking about?
HE started off the conversation by saying Jay Z more relevant and more consistent than Eminem and Nas.
I then asked him to prove it.
He started stuttering, and here you come to assist.
You're also displaying hilarious lack of self awareness if you think comparison is the the very basis hip-hop (and Jay Z's entire persona) is based on.
You can't be both old and ignorant, G. Pick a struggle.
- Jun 1·edited·1 replyAisosa
What on earth are you talking about?
HE started off the conversation by saying Jay Z more relevant and more consistent than Eminem and Nas.
I then asked him to prove it.
He started stuttering, and here you come to assist.
You're also displaying hilarious lack of self awareness if you think comparison is the the very basis hip-hop (and Jay Z's entire persona) is based on.
You can't be both old and ignorant, G. Pick a struggle.
I’d pick old
Which part of my post do you think is false
You not liking jayz or youth being ingrained in comparison
I can’t understand why you’re spending so much energy trying to convince people to not like jay z lol
Jun 1DaeHanIf you’re going on pure numbers - then ok.
I never claimed that Jay was the biggest selling rapper.
What im saying is that he’s (still) more relevant than those other rappers, even without having dropped an album in 9 years.
Not sure why you’re trying so hard to downplay Jay lol. I like Nas, Em, etc.
We don’t have to downplay a rapper to prop others up
In terms of legacy guarding and preservation, Jay Z is probably the best at this. But it also takes a machine and resources to do so in his case.
It’s naive to believe it’s all organic reverence.
To his credit, he seems to care more about this than Eminem or Nas. Part of that is because he leverages his legacy as his brand and his value that he brings to business ventures.
Last year was probably the biggest hit he took to that effort and that’s why he sounds a lot less cool, calm, and collected than normal in this freestyle, which is not a bad thing. He could benefit from, for once, not coming off as irreproachable.
- Jun 1·3 repliesJim Halpert
I’d pick old
Which part of my post do you think is false
You not liking jayz or youth being ingrained in comparison
I can’t understand why you’re spending so much energy trying to convince people to not like jay z lol
Everybody's "ingrained in comparison"... it was probably even worse then than it is now.
This isn't my opinion, BTW, there's song lyrics, and cultural detritus to prove it.
I don't like Jay Z in the same way I dont like Peter Thiel; they're capitalist leeches that make the world a worse place.
I dont care if you like Jay Z or not. If the nigga had said, "I love Jay Z so much", I'd have kept it moving.
What I won't countenance, however, is people just straight up lying about verifiable facts. Jay Z is a great rapper, but he's never been THE GUY in any era. He's also not the most consistent, as demonstrated above.
In general, even IRL, people need to understand that facts aren't things that can be twisted and spun to fit whatever narrative you like.
- Jun 1·edited·2 repliesAisosa
Everybody's "ingrained in comparison"... it was probably even worse then than it is now.
This isn't my opinion, BTW, there's song lyrics, and cultural detritus to prove it.
I don't like Jay Z in the same way I dont like Peter Thiel; they're capitalist leeches that make the world a worse place.
I dont care if you like Jay Z or not. If the nigga had said, "I love Jay Z so much", I'd have kept it moving.
What I won't countenance, however, is people just straight up lying about verifiable facts. Jay Z is a great rapper, but he's never been THE GUY in any era. He's also not the most consistent, as demonstrated above.
In general, even IRL, people need to understand that facts aren't things that can be twisted and spun to fit whatever narrative you like.
Most of that’s fair sure
You view rappers how you view hedge fund managers?
What’s the argument to be made against projects like the black album, reasonable doubt, the blueprint, and American gangster?
I mean I listen to music. And that s*** is undeniable.
I don’t really know about people’s net worth like that.
- Jun 1
Didn’t jayz sell crack and kill people? Who thinks he’s an angel?
- Jun 1·1 replyJim Halpert
Most of that’s fair sure
You view rappers how you view hedge fund managers?
What’s the argument to be made against projects like the black album, reasonable doubt, the blueprint, and American gangster?
I mean I listen to music. And that s*** is undeniable.
I don’t really know about people’s net worth like that.
No argument at all, they're amazing albums.
I just feel really uncomfortable when people aren't capable of being objective/being parasocial.
I'm going to ask you a question: did you listen to the freestyle and did you notice any points where he seemed to be struggling for breath?
- Jun 1Jim Halpert
Most of that’s fair sure
You view rappers how you view hedge fund managers?
What’s the argument to be made against projects like the black album, reasonable doubt, the blueprint, and American gangster?
I mean I listen to music. And that s*** is undeniable.
I don’t really know about people’s net worth like that.
Oh, I just seen your edit.
I think Jay Z should be held to an equal standard because hes deliberately placed himself as a mouthpiece for the culture and takes advantage of that to enrich himself.
It's not his fault that the Black community has very few thought leaders and our role models have sadly become rappers and athletes, but it was a considered decision on Jay Z's part ro use his influence as a way to sell out the Black community to White billionaires.
The Nets
Tidal
The NFL
The CasinoThe list goes on
Jun 1·1 reply
LacedShe's obviously trying to see if she can sue first
When these big name rappers go this route….its just so embarrassing to see them go out this sad
- Jun 1·1 replyTAXI
When these big name rappers go this route….its just so embarrassing to see them go out this sad
She should make a diss record and/or start shooting niggas instead, the way rap beefs used to go in the good old days.
- Jun 1Aisosa
No argument at all, they're amazing albums.
I just feel really uncomfortable when people aren't capable of being objective/being parasocial.
I'm going to ask you a question: did you listen to the freestyle and did you notice any points where he seemed to be struggling for breath?
Oh no I’m just an album guy
Wouldn’t surprise me though he’s old
- Jun 1Aisosa
She should make a diss record and/or start shooting niggas instead, the way rap beefs used to go in the good old days.
Nicki minaj particularly has become a completely different person over the years. I don’t even remember her last song or even last diss song. All I know is she’s become what Meek mill was accused of becoming which is having Twitter fingers (and becoming maga)
- Jun 1·1 reply
No matter his age, jay has always been consistent with the way he drops these live concert/festival acapella freestyles. Nobody can ever outdo him in wordplay subliminals.
- Jun 1·2 replies
Hov looked like a combo of snoop & ab soul. Damn near looked like someone you’d see in San Andreas lol
Jun 1·1 replyAll being said this next album better be his magnum opus. There's no excuse
Jun 1AisosaWhat objective metric are you using to determine relevance?
Aside from how a 60 year old man makes you feel in your body
Jun 1AisosaWhat objective metric are you using to determine relevance?
Aside from how a 60 year old man makes you feel in your body
Jun 1·1 replyAisosaEverybody's "ingrained in comparison"... it was probably even worse then than it is now.
This isn't my opinion, BTW, there's song lyrics, and cultural detritus to prove it.
I don't like Jay Z in the same way I dont like Peter Thiel; they're capitalist leeches that make the world a worse place.
I dont care if you like Jay Z or not. If the nigga had said, "I love Jay Z so much", I'd have kept it moving.
What I won't countenance, however, is people just straight up lying about verifiable facts. Jay Z is a great rapper, but he's never been THE GUY in any era. He's also not the most consistent, as demonstrated above.
In general, even IRL, people need to understand that facts aren't things that can be twisted and spun to fit whatever narrative you like.
if Jay-Z Peter Thiel, then your avi Donald Trump
nigga single-handedly spearheaded overly obsessed cult stan culture on the internet for a celebrity
- Jun 1
Broscodolo"quest introduced me to jaguar idk why I still f*** with him"
This jaguar person is weird as f*** on Twitter
Jun 1183 pages
- Jun 1TAXI
Hov looked like a combo of snoop & ab soul. Damn near looked like someone you’d see in San Andreas lol
yea Ab-Soul need to put in the cease and desist
- Jun 1
GreenPointeGrahamNot the angle I wanted from Jay, rappers go straight to the Im richer than you talk off rip lol.
You better and more creative than that angle Jay.
He was pretty creative here. Also he’s responding to these dweebs who’ve mentioned his name past year or so