I didn’t necessarily hate Gunn’s short lived DCU but he did this to himself. I get that he loves making projects out of the weirder oddball side characters or the more obscure, but now was not the time for that and it’s not what the masses wanted to kick off a brand new extended universe. Outside of Superman & Supergirl he completely dragged his feet on introducing any other major players and this is cost of that.

Not like a whole bunch of main characters were cast yet though from the top DC names. And people seem to really like David. I can see maybe rebooting story wise but cast wise I think at least most would return if they want.

You thinking about it financially bro which isn’t wrong but this whole paramount merger deal is a financial nightmare. It was never about the money. MoT could make a billi and they still freeing Gunn

Grace randolph won

I think if it’s to shift towards focusing on higher profile “safer” characters and projects it’s a bit of both

superman didnt crack a billion. You are at times missing out on major money on the table by not having a director that has said less politically and makes a more likeable product.

they knew his ideology before the merger, before visiting the set, before appointing him to the skydance ceo team

what new has chnaged that would lead to ideology issues if he is still working for them

clayface and supergirl cost money to make

add up their budgets then you can throw in lanterns budget peacemaker season 2 compared to how much that money could make on a batman, wonder woman movie

that is what ellison is looking at profit

not even limited to good reviews
not ratings on tv views

PROFIT

hit me that the last dcu project gonna be a gorilla grodd show

Forgot about the transformers one marketing…

Only thing I remember from that is some dude on Twitter dedicating his account to it.

Clayface is literally making bank rn tho

Introducing all the villains and then never seeing any of them again

i like when u can take one look at someone and tell they are an utterly soulless human being

People keep saying "its just supergirl that flopped " well yeah but that is an expensive ass flop. the marketing deals helped some but that flop was a lot for a movie in the second year of the universe . Marvel can afford to do that now but you cant afford to do that early in a universe. S*** you cant afford to do that movie 2 of a 3 movie series.

Clayface was always a fun art project not expecting crazy returns. If Supergirl did just reasonable then we may not be having this conversation but it did terrible in terms of sales. Reviews mixed.

supergirl flopped harder than morbius, that s*** brazy

yeah but I am saying you add up both supergirl and clayface budgets

supergirl 170-186
clayface luckily just 40 million

but 210-226 million and supergirl didnt make back its budget

Bro if they cared about profit they wouldn’t have brought WB, they’re $87 billion in debt cus of the buyout

second movie in the universe and supergirl was getting big reactions after her cameo in superman

SG was a disaster

you think they bought them for the love of the art man they do care about profit to use the characters to make more money then they are CURRENTLY MAKING. Thats the goal.

Ending Superman having her call Superman a b**** probably wasnt the best idea. making Supergirl an edgelord and doing a story where she is an alcohoilc to grieve and s***trafficking in space for your second movie in a universe that people loved for being more upbeat and less dark is an abhorrently stupid decision

yes its a comic book but a comic book and its fans arent always going to show up for you in the theaters same as anime and game fans.

Minecraft made a dumb accessible product.

Resident Evil made an accessible dumbed down product

doing fan service of a comic with the director having not even read the comic with a nihilistic woman character when women characters in cbm and hero s*** already struggle to get great movies is kind of dumb to me.

$87b in debt and you need Ellison to get you out is so funny

“It’s too bloated and some characters and even easter eggs may not make the final cut, which is why they had to fire him now, and not wait to the end of his contract in April,” the insider continued.

We said this from the jump
Lmaooo

no s*** they care about maximizing profit from companies they purchased . What else is the purpose. Also control of companies like tik tok to control media. Then once they in their mind improve value of company or rights to characters they can sell off. Not saying it will be solved through a singular movie or they see profits super quickly or at all.

If you think Supergirl flopping for the cost it took to create played no part in this cool man if you think this all just came down to ideology then what? he was always lying about keeping gunn? He fliipped when he saw Gunn post he voted?

I told yall Gunn would be out before man of tomorrow or right after and was told "nuh uh he visited the set and he said they staying"

now you going with something else entirely

The insider