And what makes references in rap songs the determining factor?
I've heard Peja Stojakovic get name dropped in numerous rap songs, that doesn't make him the most popular basketball player
They aren’t just name dropping Superman to rhyme with “Yo B****”
I can’t believe this is this hard for you to concede to. Nigga it’s squints Superman lmao
When spider man 1 dropped I wasnt like "well the cartoon good but we havent had a great spider man movie"
they made GREAT CONTENT
MAKE GREAT CONTENT NOT GREAT EXCUSES
The Arkham Trilogy
Insomniac's Spider-Man
Spider-Verse Trilogy
Tom Holland films
Nolan trilogy
Matt Reeves' Batman
Absolute Batman
Ultimate Spider-Man
Miles Morales
Sam Raimi trilogy
What does Superman have in the 21st Century that was as popular as any of these things?
Nothing and Soulja Boy still thought of him first for that song
Why? Lmao
Popularity has nothing to do with quality. There are terrible Spider-Man movies that were still extremely popular
spider man 3 was popular because we saw 1 and 2
"well im not superman"
we know she is not superman and has a different level of ethics. If a hero or random human being killed Netanyahu that would lead to MORE death of civilians not less. It wouldnt solve any problem. Damn near would have been better for superman to handle the world conflict and justice gang to handle the world ripping at its seams and fighitng a superman clone.
If you get that. Im confused on your issue with the inspiration theme ? Yea he inspire them but at their core they still got different ethics than superman
BRO STOP THESE F***ING EXCUSES MAN
They aren’t just name dropping Superman to rhyme with “Yo B****”
I can’t believe this is this hard for you to concede to. Nigga it’s squints Superman lmao
I genuinely don't think you're grasping what I'm saying
Everything you're mentioning is icongraphy, which I've already agreed that Superman is extremely iconic
He is nowhere near as popular as Batman or Spider-Man in the 21st Century
Nothing and Soulja Boy still thought of him first for that song
Why? Lmao
I guess Soulja Boy determines what's popular then
Matrix trilogy I recongnize the sequels were rushed and issues but end of the day they still tried to do something. They made a movie. Them s***s closer to a good superman movie than anything and how you should excecute it.
SMALLVILLE
I guess Soulja Boy determines what's popular then
smallville was popular and ran countless seasons
heroes had a superman
matrix superman
goku superman
invincible
the boys
I guess Soulja Boy determines what's popular then
Wayne Em Big Boi too
Again I’m waiting on the long list of rap songs about Spiderman and Batman
In some ways Spiderman and Batman only exist because of Superman twin lol
smallville was popular and ran countless seasons
heroes had a superman
matrix superman
goku superman
invincible
the boys
Niggas said Smallville I'm crying man
So Spider-Man and Batman both have billion dollar film franchises and Superman has Smallville and shows that he wasn't even in
you have to acknowledget that superman 2025 simply wasnt even regardless of box office the smash hit superman story it needed to be for people to be like "NAH THIS CRAZY YOU CANT FIRE GUNN"
outside of fanboys
fanboys are upset at this even though he still making a movie for them
but this isnt it for many man. The general audience wont be like "oh no we lost gunn "
Wayne Em Big Boi too
Again I’m waiting on the long list of rap songs about Spiderman and Batman
In some ways Spiderman and Batman only exist because of Superman twin lol
Is popularity measured solely by namedrops in rap songs to you?
people are superman fans they just want a good superman movie. It doesnt have to come from james gunn it doesnt have to come from zack snyder
when zack snyder man of steel failed at least the snyder fans recongnized he took a risk not "superman returns is why " "there is a great conspiracy against us"
Is popularity measured solely by namedrops in rap songs to you?
Superman before man of steel hadnt even had a reasonable movie in half a century what are we talking about
Superman before man of steel hadnt even had a reasonable movie in half a century what are we talking about
I said that pages ago and you called it an excuse
man of steel was liked by some and rated poorly but the reviews over hated
before that when was the last even reasonable superman movie?
The reason Superman can’t ever be as popular as Batman is cuz his fanbase is eternally split into 2 bases, the ones that want wholesome Boy Scout dork Superman and the ones who want brooding edgy walking weapon of destruction Superman and you can’t have your cake and eat it too
I said that pages ago and you called it an excuse
I am saying if you are using that excuse for the superman 2025 its even more applicable for man of steel which you act like is terrible
the movies that came before man of steel for dc are astronomically worse than the snyder verse which some of you act like absolute dogshit when gunn has had FULL CREATIVE FREEDOM
Is popularity measured solely by namedrops in rap songs to you?
It’s a huge symptom of popularity to have people who generally don’t give a f*** about your medium constantly refer to you
With people under 25 what you’re saying is probably true because of the lack of solid Superman media since 2000 vs the 1970’s films and Bruce Timm but overall if you asked people to name superheroes they are naming Superman as much as if not more than Spiderman and Batman in spite of that lol
To take it back to the main topic DC absolutely should expect a Superman movie to be as big as MCU Spiderman or The Batman 2021 moving forward, this whole convo kinda started from them tryna fix what you saying
man of steel was liked by some and rated poorly but the reviews over hated
before that when was the last even reasonable superman movie?
Why did Kevin Costner refuse to let Clark save him btw