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  • May 16, 2020
    Gojira

    did y’all know stallin thought that the rich should be jailed and replaced the prisoners who are just subsequently sent to the gulag anyways, just like people who didnt believe in communist ideology.

    Has nothing to do with the thread weirdo

  • May 16, 2020
    Hiro

    imagine all those gangs in rehab facilities . Dude norway has no gangs the way US has them. Literally hundreds of thousands of dangerous people how you going to rehab them at all? Change the economy so these gangs won't exist in its size anymore then you can change prisons. You leftists trying to change all at once with your optimistic ideas. Won#t work

    Obviously it would be a process

  • May 16, 2020
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    westtoronto125

    Do you like how Norway does it?

    I dont really know what the common prison in Norway is like

  • May 16, 2020

    Rich White people are not giving up free labor anytime soon my guy

  • May 16, 2020
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    Synopsis

    I dont really know what the common prison in Norway is like

    Stop replying until you post those statistics and data you mentioned pls

  • May 16, 2020
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    Ooo

    Stop replying until you post those statistics and data you mentioned pls

    Are you sitting itt waiting for it?

  • May 16, 2020
    Synopsis

    Are you sitting itt waiting for it?

    Yeah

  • May 16, 2020
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    Gojira

    did y’all know stallin thought that the rich should be jailed and replaced the prisoners who are just subsequently sent to the gulag anyways, just like people who didnt believe in communist ideology.

    did y'all know every US president thought that poor and non-white people should be jailed instead of the rich, who can afford representation and actually go to trial

  • Gojira 🦖
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    Mango

    did y'all know every US president thought that poor and non-white people should be jailed instead of the rich, who can afford representation and actually go to trial

    damn both systems are s***!

    who knew?

    the one in op certainly wouldn’t help either, the best thing to do is invest more in mental health and learning how the brain works.

  • May 16, 2020
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    Gojira

    damn both systems are s***!

    who knew?

    the one in op certainly wouldn’t help either, the best thing to do is invest more in mental health and learning how the brain works.

    I don't think anybody has ever said the gulag was good lol. You can certainly argue the figures that the west embraces are ludicrous based on archival research.

    Not sure what "investing in mental health" and "learning how the brain works" is going to do. How about we free nonviolent prisoners, invest in jobs for them, and make trials required in more cases to give lesser criminals leverage in plea deals? You into that?

  • Ye24 🧢
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    A good idea in theory but the state of California has been trying to “convert” prisons into being more rehabilitation focused and it’s costing the taxpayers a fortune. The state pays nearly ~$80k a year per inmate. That is more than what most people make & the bulk of that cost is food, healthcare & security. Prison psychiatrists in California can make upwards of $800k a year.

    Tell me why a prisoner who has likely committed a heinous crime deserves all this? Utterly ridiculous imo

  • May 16, 2020
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    Ye24

    A good idea in theory but the state of California has been trying to “convert” prisons into being more rehabilitation focused and it’s costing the taxpayers a fortune. The state pays nearly ~$80k a year per inmate. That is more than what most people make & the bulk of that cost is food, healthcare & security. Prison psychiatrists in California can make upwards of $800k a year.

    Tell me why a prisoner who has likely committed a heinous crime deserves all this? Utterly ridiculous imo

    Well with my proposal the number of ppl in the facilities would drop tremendously plus I've seen some reports that we spend about 80k per inmate now with our punishment centered approach

  • May 16, 2020
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    Jails work it’s just the US has long ass sentences

  • Gojira 🦖
    May 16, 2020
    Mango

    I don't think anybody has ever said the gulag was good lol. You can certainly argue the figures that the west embraces are ludicrous based on archival research.

    Not sure what "investing in mental health" and "learning how the brain works" is going to do. How about we free nonviolent prisoners, invest in jobs for them, and make trials required in more cases to give lesser criminals leverage in plea deals? You into that?

    i mean, it’s better to have a society that prevents criminals instead of having faulty prison systems that might not even work

  • May 16, 2020

    I suggest we put Marxist in jail. These are their ideas and ya'll support this.

  • Ye24 🧢
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    Well with my proposal the number of ppl in the facilities would drop tremendously plus I've seen some reports that we spend about 80k per inmate now with our punishment centered approach

    I’m all for non-violent, non-sexual, or non-child related crimes to be handled in a different manner or for those inmates to be potentially released after a specific amount of time if specific requirements are met. I think the less people in prison the better but at the same time we can’t give out the notion that crimes are no longer “punishable”

    iirc the state of Texas pays ~30k a year per inmate. Not saying they do it right but the less taxes the better imo

  • May 16, 2020

    I have to start coming to life sxn more often

  • May 16, 2020
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    Ye24

    I’m all for non-violent, non-sexual, or non-child related crimes to be handled in a different manner or for those inmates to be potentially released after a specific amount of time if specific requirements are met. I think the less people in prison the better but at the same time we can’t give out the notion that crimes are no longer “punishable”

    iirc the state of Texas pays ~30k a year per inmate. Not saying they do it right but the less taxes the better imo

    prisonpolicy.org/reports/money.html?fbclid=IwAR0bk2WPlHO32n4woKZAcSosD1WSGzS4MFdECGF_BzZp7Jjn-lDZrFX4Ch4

    themarshallproject.org/2019/12/17/the-hidden-cost-of-incarceration?fbclid=IwAR2RuAJ5N3KBg04hDz-oTPufKbaDXoyK0wxYWnRbBOZdtb5Q0DJywkovorY

    vera.org/downloads/Publications/price-of-prisons-what-incarceration-costs-taxpayers/legacy_downloads/price-of-prisons-updated-version-021914.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3vqxWm1YN2z8fNoRcdckmeT2hSwImoJ6DgSu4QZb7ZD3I1LPsHJBepBzM

    i believe my proposal significantly reduces all these costs

  • May 16, 2020

    America has the highest d*** deathrate and the citizen are brainwashed into thinking rehab doesn’t work its like satire

  • May 16, 2020
    math fifty

    NIGGAS BORN WITH PSYCHOPATHY ARE PSYCHOPATHS

    LIKE NIGGAS BORN WITH SCHIZHOPHRENA ARE SCHIZHOPHRENIC

    its not that hard to understand bruh

    This is a really stupid ignorant argument. Someone being born with these diseases does not equate to them becoming serial killers later in life. That's just simply not true

  • May 16, 2020
    good boy

    Jails work it’s just the US has long ass sentences

    how do they work

    ?

  • May 16, 2020

    openphilanthropy.org/files/Focus_Areas/Criminal_Justice_Reform/The_impacts_of_incarceration_on_crime_10.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2AWWDm-dYZXf_lbFK7ROm3b9ygPgIxq2IerKmwaEWV99cSjGPp0_hBxtg

    Overall, I estimate the societal benefit of decarceration at $92,000 per person-year of averted confinement. That figure is dominated by taxpayer savings and gained liberty

  • May 16, 2020

    openphilanthropy.org/files/Focus_Areas/Criminal_Justice_Reform/Housing_and_Incarceration_Memo_2016.pdf?fbclid=IwAR260wKp9ea8fyxLZAUi5zRzUYhNU6bPBCoaENYt122A-rXn2s_FlGnw9hY

    Funding housing related activities that prevent people entering the CJS has more potential forsignificant impact: unstable housing is strongly associated with incarceration in the US.

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