Overall this is a flawed argument but it’s the nice beginnings of a bigger idea/reform. However this is not it lol
Good thread op people dont seem to have really get it lol. I dont completely agree though, i feel like at a certain point, how do you distinguish "proper therapy" from "brainwashing"? What type of therapy could actually rewire someones brain (eg a paedophile or serial killer) to stop them from committing these acts? I imagine it would surely be very intrusive. Should we really be f***ing around with s*** like that? If a system like this was introduced, imagine society introduced new laws that required you to go get therapy. Basically this is a whole can of worms bro lol
yes these are the proper questions to ask. like ive said, im not a therapist and i don't know what goes into determining these things, but these are the things that have to be looked into and demand further scrutiny
You can keep calling it that but it'd be more like social housing.

You can call a rehab facility or social housing all you want. Doesn’t matter if they’re in a 10x6 cell or a full house with access to a shared park or whatever your ideal social housing is.
You’re putting them there because they committed a crime and you’re not allowing them to leave whenever they want.
That’s literally jail.
we're going to also end homelessness.
okay so say you’re advocating for the Marxist version of communism then bc what you’re suggesting is not just prison reform bro
1. Invest in mental health
2. Stop putting away non violent d*** offenders
3. Rehab instead of jail for d*** addicts
4. Jail worst offenders(murders, racists, white collar crimes, etc)
5. Don’t listen to this idea
He’s just talking out of his ass now and won’t answer s*** when asked
i have answered every question asked of me itt.
Crime will skyrocket from homeless population tbh and recidivism from that pop will be high too
Imagine the f***ing police when that s*** breaks loose
we're clowning OP but whats f***ed up is Norway is currently doing pretty much exactly what hes talking about
However where OP f***s up is the idea of letting some of these niggas back in society
Why it works in Norway is because their society is radically different from the US
i have answered every question asked of me itt.
Giving a reply is not giving an answer my guy sorry

You can call a rehab facility or social housing all you want. Doesn’t matter if they’re in a 10x6 cell or a full house with access to a shared park or whatever your ideal social housing is.
You’re putting them there because they committed a crime and you’re not allowing them to leave whenever they want.
That’s literally jail.
OP clearly meant jails/prison as in the modern definition and symbolism.
Y'all just like to argue tbh lol.

You can call a rehab facility or social housing all you want. Doesn’t matter if they’re in a 10x6 cell or a full house with access to a shared park or whatever your ideal social housing is.
You’re putting them there because they committed a crime and you’re not allowing them to leave whenever they want.
That’s literally jail.
The dictionary isn't a proper representation of language. if i say jail, you've been socialized to know what i mean, same where if i say rehab, you have an idea of what I mean and how they differentiate.
1. Invest in mental health
2. Stop putting away non violent d*** offenders
3. Rehab instead of jail for d*** addicts
4. Jail worst offenders(murders, racists, white collar crimes, etc)
5. Don’t listen to this idea
I mean thats pretty much exactly what Synop is saying except instead of jail they in the loony bin

You can call a rehab facility or social housing all you want. Doesn’t matter if they’re in a 10x6 cell or a full house with access to a shared park or whatever your ideal social housing is.
You’re putting them there because they committed a crime and you’re not allowing them to leave whenever they want.
That’s literally jail.
relying on a trillion dollar company to define a word for you
okay so say you’re advocating for the Marxist version of communism then bc what you’re suggesting is not just prison reform bro
yes, my ideal society includes a lot more than prison reform lol.
I mean thats pretty much exactly what Synop is saying except instead of jail they in the loony bin
hes saying let them come BACK into society
which is a No No
I mean thats pretty much exactly what Synop is saying except instead of jail they in the loony bin
He wants to let rapists and murders have a chance at life again if they say sorry enough times. That’s not justice
OP clearly meant jails/prison as in the modern definition and symbolism.
Y'all just like to argue tbh lol.
I gave OP several opportunities to say he’d keep the idea of jail but base it entirely on rehabilitation and not on making a profit and fundamentally change how prisons work.
He insisted it wouldn’t be jail and it’d be “social housing/rehab facilities”
hes saying let them come BACK into society
which is a No No
no, im saying let them back into society contingent on meeting a certain criteria to be established by experts in the field.
He wants to let rapists and murders have a chance at life again if they say sorry enough times. That’s not justice
do you think this is how rehab works?
I mean thats pretty much exactly what Synop is saying except instead of jail they in the loony bin
You know there’s a reason a lot of “loony bins” got shut down right?
He wants to let rapists and murders have a chance at life again if they say sorry enough times. That’s not justice
What if they didnt mean it
no, im saying let them back into society contingent on meeting a certain criteria to be established by experts in the field.
There will never be a solid criteria bc every case and story is different
I gave OP several opportunities to say he’d keep the idea of jail but base it entirely on rehabilitation and not on making a profit and fundamentally change how prisons work.
He insisted it wouldn’t be jail and it’d be “social housing/rehab facilities”
yes. because jail to me = cells, shared showering etc.,