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It was tbh.

Isn't Anything
Loveless
You Made Me Realise EP

All 10/10 projects

mbv

A 9/10 at best

New You is still my fav MBV song ever tho

Kevin Shields said they're gonna drop a new project like 2 years ago what's up with that

PND himself said the weeknd created that wave when he apologised to him

lol 2 years is 10 years in Kevin Shields timeline he said he was going to drop in 97, 2007 and he didn't drop until 2013

Rest assured Kevin Shield is the greatest genius in musical history

I mean 9/10 being disappointing is a high bar.

My only thing to say abs I need you to be honest if possible.

Imagine they dropped M B V in 91 and then Loveless in 2013.

I 100% think people wouldn’t be able to differentiate it beyond crispness of audio (which kinda detracts from the sound ironically)

Yeah it was only disappointing because the bar was so high

Which is a running theme in this thread

Outside of contextual factors, it’s great, so I enjoy it. But in discussing it, I’m faced with context

I actually do agree with Spacey though.

Loveless is a better album objectively and even better with context.

But I wouldn’t say M B V was disappointing.

Loveless is IMO the greatest album ever so having arguably AOTY 2013 is still incredible.

For sure

I’m happy Kevin was able to incorporate Jungle into his project eventually. Read he always had a thing for it. Just wish we could have heard that Loveless follow up that was scraped that was fully Jungle inspired

I think it was label pressure and burnout.

Label didn’t want to fund it cause too expensive and then obviously trying to live up to loveless.

Same thing with Smile with the Beach Boys. God only knows what could have been. Although I did like the Presents Smile compilation from a few years ago

pumps not mozart
jai paul and pnd are very similar
producer/singers making alt rnb in the soundcloud era
mozart was a classically trained musician/composer from the 1700s who spent years writing his music
lil pump was a 16 year old kid from florida who'd freestlye his sons in 15 minutes and mozart doesn't have anything as good as d rose

PND debut - 2013
Jai Paul debut - 2007

Jai was part of the MySpace era, not SoundCloud

This comparison is truly stupid

The rest of your post is facts though

Jahron B. wasn't MySpace's
secret weapon?

One of the most disrespectful threads I've ever seen lol

Music was his LIFE!!

Damn I forgot

terrible thread

Jai paul and its not close

16 pages for what?

apples and oranges, people are obviously just going to say who they prefer rather than make points on why one's better than the other

also this comparison makes zero sense loool

great discussion everybody. thank you for the insightful takes

at the end of the day they're 2 talented kings

leak 04-13 (bait ones) on repeat RN !!!!!

:jayhuh:

I have listened to these projects before when they released and I can't remember a single f***ing note from any of them cause it blends in so inoffensively into the entire moody r&b genre.

I'll give you that it might be "great", cause that's subjective, even if I don't agree. But "innovative"...nah I'm cool on that claim.

It is what it is. Sometimes you can't enjoy something bc it doesn't match your expectations, or you are not in the mood, or it's simply not for you. But PND is indeed an influential and respected artist, people like Kanye and Drake understand his worth.

If Jai Paul decides to drop an album one day, the internet will break. I guarantee