Thereās nothing weakly structured about these flows. These are way beyond what even a skilled rapper could come up with on these beats. The way he elevates these old beats with his modern flow is actually crazy. This is absolutely elite, 20s Cole is the best rapper skill wise ever and reducing it to lyrical miracle is weak imo
best rapper skill wise ever
are you f***ing serious?
He talking to Kendrick here imo
Nothing about this applies to Kendrick. Kendrick went on a record breaking tour
I feel like The Fall Off is going to attempt alot of s***, i'm expecting it to be a rap epic. I'm excited to hear this s***
For how long we expect the album to be, I'm really curious to see what Cole ends up doing with it.
he rapping rapping
The raps are good no doubt but yāall acting like this the craziest s*** ever lmao
Itās just some cool throwaway freestyles very few people are ever gonna go back to. Itās fine if people acknowledge that
They are beyond good man
If you donāt have the ears for it I just donāt respect your ability to dechiper raps respectfully and Iām not just talking about the ābarsā or words that are being said Iām talking about schemes flows setups delivery wordplay wittiness itās really an iykyk type of thing that simple
All that other s*** is irrelevant and real niggas who like rap DEFINITELY returning to this and putting it in rotation you can bet on that
i had a much more expletive filled rant but then i remembered they call you thegropedivine
you gotta shut the f*** up when talking to me
Keep crying.
I honestly wanted a mix of old and new instrumentals tbh
Itās like real MCs are proving that theyāre not part of this new Carti/Yachty/Gunna/Baby generation, so they go extra heavy on the bars - which I get.
But itās like theyāre going overboard.
There needs to be a happy medium
thereās a blend between bars and the melodic s***
baby can rap btw heās just not the best songwriter
Nothing about this applies to Kendrick. Kendrick went on a record breaking tour
these are just the generic shadowboxing-imdissingnobody raps
Thereās nothing weakly structured about these flows. These are way beyond what even a skilled rapper could come up with on these beats. The way he elevates these old beats with his modern flow is actually crazy. This is absolutely elite, 20s Cole is the best rapper skill wise ever and reducing it to lyrical miracle is weak imo
He can genuinely rap with anyone. I donāt get the hate honestly
I wonder if the old rappers podcasting bar was a last minute addition after Fat Joe's comments lol
He talking to Kendrick here imo
is it tho? fairly certain that lucian line is referring to drake
This album needs to be a mix of Born Sinner and FHD but with a more mature Cole
I think it will be more off seasonish but with more storytelling
i had a much more expletive filled rant but then i remembered they call you thegropedivine
you gotta shut the f*** up when talking to me
This is some victim mentality s*** if I've ever seen it. No one is expecting Cole to make a 10-week #1 smash hit or a bubble gum pop song. He's made records in the past that had him doing him and they worked. That's all some people wanna see him do again.
Y'all love acting like records don't matter if you're a mainstream rapper or if you're J. Cole but they always have and they always will. The reason why he still hasn't dropped an album that's stacked up to 2014 FHD in the eyes of the casual mainstream rap listener is because of a lack of records on his albums over the last 12 years.
Niggas making excuses like Drake and Kendrick aināt rapping they ass off on some of their biggest and most accessible tunes. Bro is rapping his ass off on Nice For What and thatās a simple ass song, other bro is rapping his ass off on TV Off and thatās a west coast banger
Doing that is way more impressive from a technical standpoint than this Cole s***. The nerve of him and his surface brained easily impressed ass fans to equate him with the 90s greats cause of nicely dressed pandering - when those greats could rap impressively and make great songs at the same time
Drake and Kendrick are way closer to the spirit of hiphop than this f***ing pander merchant could ever be. Nigga is in a perpetual state of wondering if he let Nas down
golden goose

best rapper skill wise ever
are you f***ing serious?
Yup as far as a complete rapper primes itās 97 big and 2026 j Cole probably as the goat forms ever. Thereās obviously more but Cole is really goku. And no whatever rapper thatās more lyrical is not better because the flows and cadence and delivery arenāt there
But pulling off a double album is difficult without great production
I hope he branched out to more outside production esp from super producer types. He way too talented and popular to not have that reach
A lot of it doesn't make sense tho. He's far from broke and his tour numbers are fine.
Drake is exponentially richer than Cole, has a better deal than Cole, owns his albums, has made a lot more money off touring than Cole. I don't know how those are meant to be shots aimed at Drake but niggas always gotta reach when it comes to Drake and make everything about him (this, despite Cole insisting he had no issues with Drake on Port Antonio lol).