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  • Jan 28
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    2words

    There’s nothing weakly structured about these flows. These are way beyond what even a skilled rapper could come up with on these beats. The way he elevates these old beats with his modern flow is actually crazy. This is absolutely elite, 20s Cole is the best rapper skill wise ever and reducing it to lyrical miracle is weak imo

    best rapper skill wise ever

    are you f***ing serious?

  • Jan 28
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    Dondada

    He talking to Kendrick here imo

    Nothing about this applies to Kendrick. Kendrick went on a record breaking tour

  • gnarlynasty

    I feel like The Fall Off is going to attempt alot of s***, i'm expecting it to be a rap epic. I'm excited to hear this s***

    For how long we expect the album to be, I'm really curious to see what Cole ends up doing with it.

  • BIG 67 šŸ‘
    Jan 28

    he rapping rapping

  • Need cole rapping on 12 crack commandments

  • Jan 28
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    notbrock

    The raps are good no doubt but y’all acting like this the craziest s*** ever lmao

    It’s just some cool throwaway freestyles very few people are ever gonna go back to. It’s fine if people acknowledge that

    They are beyond good man

    If you don’t have the ears for it I just don’t respect your ability to dechiper raps respectfully and I’m not just talking about the ā€œbarsā€ or words that are being said I’m talking about schemes flows setups delivery wordplay wittiness it’s really an iykyk type of thing that simple

    All that other s*** is irrelevant and real niggas who like rap DEFINITELY returning to this and putting it in rotation you can bet on that

  • huey p rxcan

    best rapper skill wise ever

    are you f***ing serious?

    Dude it’s 2words

  • Jan 28
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    NoFace

    i had a much more expletive filled rant but then i remembered they call you thegropedivine

    you gotta shut the f*** up when talking to me

    Keep crying.

  • He’s not talking about Kendrick when he’s talking about tours flopping. No way

  • Jbreezyondeck šŸŒ¬ļø
    Jan 28

    I honestly wanted a mix of old and new instrumentals tbh

  • Jan 28
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    This album needs to be a mix of Born Sinner and FHD but with a more mature Cole

  • Jan 28
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    DaeHan

    It’s like real MCs are proving that they’re not part of this new Carti/Yachty/Gunna/Baby generation, so they go extra heavy on the bars - which I get.

    But it’s like they’re going overboard.

    There needs to be a happy medium

    there’s a blend between bars and the melodic s***

    baby can rap btw he’s just not the best songwriter

  • I made the born sinner call and ask forgiveness.

  • Platinum

    Nothing about this applies to Kendrick. Kendrick went on a record breaking tour

    these are just the generic shadowboxing-imdissingnobody raps

  • 2words

    There’s nothing weakly structured about these flows. These are way beyond what even a skilled rapper could come up with on these beats. The way he elevates these old beats with his modern flow is actually crazy. This is absolutely elite, 20s Cole is the best rapper skill wise ever and reducing it to lyrical miracle is weak imo

    He can genuinely rap with anyone. I don’t get the hate honestly

  • I wonder if the old rappers podcasting bar was a last minute addition after Fat Joe's comments lol

  • Jan 28
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    Dondada

    He talking to Kendrick here imo

    is it tho? fairly certain that lucian line is referring to drake

  • Jan 28
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    TheFader

    This album needs to be a mix of Born Sinner and FHD but with a more mature Cole

    I think it will be more off seasonish but with more storytelling

  • NoFace

    i had a much more expletive filled rant but then i remembered they call you thegropedivine

    you gotta shut the f*** up when talking to me

  • Jan 28
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    thegreatdivine

    This is some victim mentality s*** if I've ever seen it. No one is expecting Cole to make a 10-week #1 smash hit or a bubble gum pop song. He's made records in the past that had him doing him and they worked. That's all some people wanna see him do again.

    Y'all love acting like records don't matter if you're a mainstream rapper or if you're J. Cole but they always have and they always will. The reason why he still hasn't dropped an album that's stacked up to 2014 FHD in the eyes of the casual mainstream rap listener is because of a lack of records on his albums over the last 12 years.

    Niggas making excuses like Drake and Kendrick ain’t rapping they ass off on some of their biggest and most accessible tunes. Bro is rapping his ass off on Nice For What and that’s a simple ass song, other bro is rapping his ass off on TV Off and that’s a west coast banger

    Doing that is way more impressive from a technical standpoint than this Cole s***. The nerve of him and his surface brained easily impressed ass fans to equate him with the 90s greats cause of nicely dressed pandering - when those greats could rap impressively and make great songs at the same time

    Drake and Kendrick are way closer to the spirit of hiphop than this f***ing pander merchant could ever be. Nigga is in a perpetual state of wondering if he let Nas down

  • BIG 67 šŸ‘
    Jan 28

    golden goose

  • huey p rxcan

    best rapper skill wise ever

    are you f***ing serious?

    Yup as far as a complete rapper primes it’s 97 big and 2026 j Cole probably as the goat forms ever. There’s obviously more but Cole is really goku. And no whatever rapper that’s more lyrical is not better because the flows and cadence and delivery aren’t there

  • Purrp 🌚
    Jan 28
    gnarlynasty

    But pulling off a double album is difficult without great production

    I hope he branched out to more outside production esp from super producer types. He way too talented and popular to not have that reach

  • Nix

    A lot of it doesn't make sense tho. He's far from broke and his tour numbers are fine.

    Drake is exponentially richer than Cole, has a better deal than Cole, owns his albums, has made a lot more money off touring than Cole. I don't know how those are meant to be shots aimed at Drake but niggas always gotta reach when it comes to Drake and make everything about him (this, despite Cole insisting he had no issues with Drake on Port Antonio lol).

  • Ok I’m relistening… he didn’t diss Kendrick but I feel like Kendrick might spin his block for all this best rapper s*** lol