kill yourself

Nas
Big L

When it comes to hip hop

I don't think op is dissing I think he mentioning artists that are actually popular but people act like its beyond the mainstream or deep pocket n whatever

It's just some people won't enter the kingdom living with certain ways...

(it was a joke)

Am totally gonna get a pair

I forgot about the shutter shades

I wore some of those to school once around Graduation era, I thought I was that nigga as a young nigga

I bet they are still in one of my old boxes somewhere

Dont derail your own thread by saying s*** like "Aphex Twin"

Rocky up there, he desperately wants to be perceived as a visionary and boundary pushing.
That whole performance with the milk drinking was tragic.

Yall missing the point like a mf.
Nothing wrong with selling a lot, being mainstream and having radio hits. It's some artists that desire to manufacture an image of refined taste and artistic choices, boundary pushing and trend setting, while clearly having none of those qualities.

Rocky definitely isn't the visionary he wants to be, new album entered the trash can within a week

But you kinda reaching/killing the integrity of your point by bringing up the milk thing, it's not a prominent/heavily promoted moment of his career
It's basically just a KTT2 meme

He's still got a strong enough discography to eventually pull off a 40 song setlist show with songs to spare

Just an image that popped in my head, but I do think it's part of a collection of behaviors that indicate he wants to move like artsy Kanye so bad

"He's still got a strong enough discography to eventually pull off a 40 song setlist show with songs to spare"

I agree and I f*** with Rocky's music generally speaking.
I'm just saying he got that artsy esoteric fantasy in his head fs.

Also it should be clear you don't need to be an esoteric boundary pushing visionary to make dope music.

this genuinely describes opium fans in 2026 cuz they really act like “underground” is a genre despite all their fav rappers being signed to major labels

Honestly feel like this goes for every rapper

All of your responses were valid

Good stuff fam

Definitely agree with it being an instance of a recurring pattern of behaviour intended to add to to (or instantiate) a mythology of artistic genius around him

They’re really only going on about that one album when in all actuality speaking in tongues is a better album

I agree with you but I am mostly talking about fans who act like this, i’m not necessarily criticizing the artists themselves mostly

Radiohead

playboi carti and OPIUM definitely fits and i’m a fan of his music

fakemink
bladee
charli
jane remover
ninajirachi
fcukers
indie sleaze revival

yea that’s my whole problem that turns me into grandpa simpson yelling at the clouds

underground isn’t an “aesthetic”

yes i think you’re one of the only ppl ITT that gets the point