knockknockwhoitis

5y

I wish these people could see the invoices. like how Akademiks said Meek doesn't f*** with him, but he's signed deals to promote artists on his page who are signed to Meek. Probably Vory. An AK post (not the ones random underground artists buy that are obvious promo, but the ones designed not to look as much like promo) alone is probably $25k or something

the shade room isn't really used for music marketing (it's moreso used for Fashionnova) but if y'all knew how much a post there cost you'd lose it (and most folks buy a package deal)

throwawayokay

5y

i always wondered about akademiks promos so this was cool to hear. some of his posts are blatantly obvious that they are paid promos while other's, not as much

1887

5y

I ain’t watch but 150k is optional. You don’t need 150k to get poppin

BrickellBayside

5y

You spitting

Even the stuff under your nose like what you mentioned cost.

throwawayokay

5y

mhmm interesting. also if an artist drops a song or project and wanted to dominate the charts for x amount of weeks, is there a ceiling for their budget ? or can they keep paying to get playlisted, thus remaining on the charts for however long they wish.

olivia rodigo for example, how she just popped off and did drake/ariana numbers even though she's a new talent. i know she has a disney background which gave her the connections, but is payola what's making her dominate the charts like that ? i'm just tryna understand

knockknockwhoitis

5y

lol yeah I can tell from ur posts that u have worked in the industry. it's like speaking a foreign language

a post on the shade room is like $9k - $15k. and most folks do a package deal which can get the per post price down, but you're spending six figures over the course of months or a year

I'd love to know what Ak or Saycheese or No Jumper charge for a post. stuff like that is where this $150k can go

BrickellBayside

5y

The 150K is just a figure. For some acts it's more than that, for some it's less.

The whole point is that everything costs, and costs a lot.

From recording, to purchasing beats, hiring a manager, hiring a tour manager, artwork, merch, lawyer, music videos, online content, outfits, online promotion across social media.

It's all optional, but if you truly want to up your chances of popping you either 1) Have the money for all of this s***, 2) Have enough clout to where you don't have to spend as much or 3) Cut corners, and that lessens your chances of this music s*** working out.

How much money do you think it would take rn to get an act popping?

1887

5y

Half the SoundCloud era blew up first THEN went and signed. Nobody hiring a tour manager or lawyer before already breaking through

BrickellBayside

5y

You THINk they blew up then signed.

That's the funny part lol

You think they just threw the record on SC and it just went crazy? Really? Lol

People literally hire firms to make records go viral on platforms like that.

1887

5y

Oh this a conspiracy thread lmfaooooo

BrickellBayside

5y

Oh no this is not a conspiracy lmaoo you can think what you want. I've seen it first hand bro I'm sorry lol

This s*** not magic or organic man. Believe what you want my boy lol

throwawayokay

5y

https://ktt2.com/olivia-rodrigo-accused-of-mr-me-tooing-her-entire-image-sound-31241005

after i made this post i peeped this thread right after. what do you think about it? the pop industry is a lot different than rap i imagine, but after seeing this thread i'm assuming there's a formula for all these pop artists? @knockknockwhoitis

the numbers she's pulling still doesn't make sense to me. idk if it's genuine support from her fans or the machine behind her is just that strong

BrickellBayside

5y

I've done some management work, and like, my neighbor is Dom Kennedy's manager. I've seen it first hand.

I've seen rappers literally sell IG stories for promo for like 2 bands 😭

To be fair, not every post from Saycheese or Ak charges. If you've got juice in your city and are really popping, he / they may do it off the muscle. But some are just blatantly obvious. Like Worldstarhiphop back in the day lol

It's kind of nuts when you truly break down how much everything materially cost.

From experience, the easiest way to get around this s*** is by having clout in your city. Some have clout because they're just popular, some are like known gang members in their city, whatever. The more clout you have, the less you have to pay because then it becomes beneficial for that PR firm to f*** with you, it becomes beneficial for that brand to work with you, etc.

1887

5y

Oh this a conspiracy thread lmfaooooo

knockknockwhoitis

5y

there are confirmations online that drake wasn't "unsigned" during part of the speculation of where he'd sign

several "unsigned" acts are actually signed, but don't announce because it hurts the fantasy people like you have in your head

knockknockwhoitis

5y

basically @JGOGang

Greedygiddy

5y

This is such an awful take I had to make an account just to tell you dawg lmao

1887

5y

Oh this a conspiracy thread lmfaooooo

Troy Ave Stan

5y

They make you think they independent for that organic feel

Hedobevibindoe

5y

The biggest rapper in the game blew up off of myspace

Hedobevibindoe

5y

The biggest rapper in the game blew up off of myspace