this is a white man from ohio trolling, I traced his IP
Sorry man
hamas is not "far-right" or "fundamentalist", what the hell are you talking about
its just a typical islamic democratic party lol
you fell for the racist bullshit, like sorry I gotta be the one to tell you? you can stop at any time but I promise you if you keep saying racist bullshit I'll keep reporting your comments.
i think u define far right by how capitalist they are so i guess in ur framework they wouldnt be maybe?
Well when you’ve been governed by a far right Muslim fundamentalist group for a while and it’s been generations of justifiable hate I think it’s fair to say that worry is p real for the Jewish population in “Israel” and people who’s families have lived in Israel for a enough time they don’t have a place to go back to. I don’t think having representation and protections for the citizens of an area is bad.
if Israel wins which would be horrible I’d want Palestinian right of return and checks and balances and representation to make sure Palestinians aren’t second class citizens atleast with that terrible situation, though unlikely
Well at the very least a bunch of genocidal racists like the isrealis should be barred from government. Or esle theyll just do the same again like in south africa
Only semi confirmed piece of info is that some sort of cyber attack happened other than that it’s pure speculation
I'm also seeing others say that Israeli fighter jets are bombing the missile launchers which is why no missiles have launched ~45 minutes after the initial alert. Example:
Will wait till there's video
i think u define far right by how capitalist they are so i guess in ur framework they wouldnt be maybe?
Their not right wing like the isrealis cause their not commiting a genocide…
the far-right....checks notes.....paramilitary group protecting palestinian civilians from being exterminated
Well at the very least a bunch of genocidal racists like the isrealis should be barred from government. Or esle theyll just do the same again like in south africa
hmm thats a fair point for sure, prolly need a majority palestinian government and proper checks and balances for these things in that case. thing is if we agree they will be a part of the population, we probably want them represented in government to a degree no?
Their not right wing like the isrealis cause their not commiting a genocide…
yeah but they are committing one in this user's fanfiction, have you considered that
hmm thats a fair point for sure, prolly need a majority palestinian government and proper checks and balances for these things in that case. thing is if we agree they will be a part of the population, we probably want them represented in government to a degree no?
what do you mean "represented in the government"? zionists will not be represented at all, like all white supremacist ideologies it will be banned. if settlers want to be represented they can do it within the framework of palestinian national liberation.
Their not right wing like the isrealis cause their not commiting a genocide…
right wing doesnt equal how harmful u r, but yes istrael is super right wing. hamas is generally considered pretty right wing socially and fundamentalist.
what do you mean "represented in the government"? zionists will not be represented at all, like all white supremacist ideologies it will be banned. if settlers want to be represented they can do it within the framework of palestinian national liberation.
do you not think the jews in the region deserve representation in the government including former "israeli" civillians in that scenario..? the fact is they would be living there unless we arent really fans of democratic values and representing all the people. it would be like half the population lol
do you not think the jews in the region deserve representation in the government including former "israeli" civillians in that scenario..? the fact is they would be living there unless we arent really fans of democratic values and representing all the people. it would be like half the population lol
bro I am jewish
why would palestine not include jews? hamas does not exclude anti-zionist jews. you've invented a fake scenario to get mad at because, guess what, you're ignorant about what people actually think and believe, as everyone else has pointed out to you
right wing doesnt equal how harmful u r, but yes istrael is super right wing. hamas is generally considered pretty right wing socially and fundamentalist.
So what makes someone right wing by your definition?
So what makes someone right wing by your definition?
don't encourage
bro I am jewish
why would palestine not include jews? hamas does not exclude anti-zionist jews. you've invented a fake scenario to get mad at because, guess what, you're ignorant about what people actually think and believe, as everyone else has pointed out to you
what fake scenario we r disucssing a hypothetical of what would be the best scenario. former israeli citizens would be part of the population. itll be like a 50/50 split of people that identified as palestinian or used to identify as israeli. probably importnat to represent them to a degree of course.
don't encourage
Im curious cause it seems like these people dont actually have a definition for it
what fake scenario we r disucssing a hypothetical of what would be the best scenario. former israeli citizens would be part of the population. itll be like a 50/50 split of people that identified as palestinian or used to identify as israeli. probably importnat to represent them to a degree of course.
every palestinian; regardless of religion, sex, or ethnicity; will be represented in palestine equally. why would that not be the case? zionism will not be represented though since it is by definition exclusionary and against the principles of plurinationalism. and yes this means what has been taken by the zionists (land) will be returned to palestinians.
So what makes someone right wing by your definition?
it is anti western but that does not necessarily mean its left wing in values. Hamas believes in religiou fundamentalism as in islamic theocracy under sharia, they rn tend to be authoritarian in nature, promotes strict gender roles and womens rights, anti lgbtq, nationalist in spirit, more militaristic, not a fan of western style democracy pluralism and secularism
sure some of this could change for sure but in effect its not rly controversial to call them a right wing fundamentalist group they r p open about it. some right wing groups are anti west and gith imperialism too, some run social programs, and some oppose occupation too that doesnt make them left wing or not fundamentalist.
lot of "israelis" would flee from a free palestine solely off the fact that they couldn't bear living with palestinians as equals. vast majority of those creatures wouldn't even share an apartment building with a palestinian.
also no, it won't be "a 50/50 split". "israel" is already experiencing a severe demographics crisis and settlers are already leaving before the settler state has been abolished. I really doubt that most will stay in palestine if forced to live equally to arabs. of course those that do will have to devote themselves to the revolution.
the whole jewish supremacy thing is the main reason "israelis" like living there. a lot of them won't be sticking around by choice off the loss of that alone.
it is anti western but that does not necessarily mean its left wing in values. Hamas believes in religiou fundamentalism as in islamic theocracy under sharia, they rn tend to be authoritarian in nature, promotes strict gender roles and womens rights, anti lgbtq, nationalist in spirit, more militaristic, not a fan of western style democracy pluralism and secularism
sure some of this could change for sure but in effect its not rly controversial to call them a right wing fundamentalist group they r p open about it. some right wing groups are anti west and gith imperialism too, some run social programs, and some oppose occupation too that doesnt make them left wing or not fundamentalist.
they are left-wing because they challenge the white supremacist imperialist system, it has nothing to do with this imaginary checklist you've come up with. also half this s*** you said is just wrong and racist but that's almost besides the point at this point.
I don't understand why you guys think all the non-communist Iranians all support the previous US-plotted Iranian monarchy simply because there was more freedom. Most people agree monarchy is bad. It's just that Khomeinism was worse to them
realistically regime change would only bring in another pro-west middle eastern puppet state. there isn't a version of history where the IRI would fall and some secular anti-imperialist marxist government would take over. plus the biggest reason khomeinism is 'worse' (it achieved big improvements in healthcare and education actually) is due to sanctions.