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  • Feb 3
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    Albert Grindstein

    bruh cmon bruh lol i like this song a lot but i think you not factoring in public perception enough here. not only do you have to beat the other guy but you have to sway the public as well. Otherwise you look like Joe budden going at Drake. He cooked him but if the public doesn't care it might as well not exist.

    The public is in Kendrick’s hands I am talking about who would do better overall without the bias. We know the media has Kendrick as the “ one good black person “ that’s not a debate I’m saying who can out rap in a beef

  • Feb 3
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    BuryYaTaco

    Kendrick went from speaking on political issues to avoiding it. Thats an angle some would go at for sure . Some would consider some of his moves sellout level or fake when needed the most .

    “It’s often said that rappers are discouraged from speaking out about politics by a controversy-shy record industry but Kendrick isn’t buying it. “No, there’s no excuse,” he says. “It’s really just about integrity. We all like to have fun. I like to have fun, too. But where do you stop and say, ‘You know what? There’s actually some real s*** going on out there that people can relate to more than any singalong I can bring to the table.’”

    Again, I can agree - Em in top shape, Push, Pac, Noname if she was bigger.

    Like I'm not even saying he's unbeatable bruh. You are responding to me as if I'm not open to the idea or something. I just think it would be really difficult because Kendrick is strategic.

  • Feb 3
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    Albert Grindstein

    Again, I can agree - Em in top shape, Push, Pac, Noname if she was bigger.

    Like I'm not even saying he's unbeatable bruh. You are responding to me as if I'm not open to the idea or something. I just think it would be really difficult because Kendrick is strategic.

    What is there to be strategic on when someone you are going at has infinitely less dirt than your major opponent people know you for . Who has Kendrick fully beefed with no subs other than Drake ?

  • Feb 3
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    BuryYaTaco

    The public is in Kendrick’s hands I am talking about who would do better overall without the bias. We know the media has Kendrick as the “ one good black person “ that’s not a debate I’m saying who can out rap in a beef

    We still have people that believe Drake outrapped Kendrick in the battle. The public matters just as much as skill. Kendrick can rap with the best of them; who is really going to be able to best him in a way that matters given the circumstances? That's the question, and again, I named people I think who have a shot. I don't think it's "impossible" I just think they have a long day f***ing with him.

  • BuryYaTaco

    What is there to be strategic on when someone you are going at has infinitely less dirt than your major opponent people know you for . Who has Kendrick fully beefed with no subs other than Drake ?

    I mean you can say that about about any rapper bruh. Niggas aint just beefing and battle rapping all the time. If anything Drake has had the most battles if you think about it lol

  • Feb 3

    Noname….

    If she made a catchy track

  • Albert Grindstein

    Yeah a more patient Drake actually had a chance tbh

    he panicked so bad after Not Like Us bro he said you're molested and im taking my ball home

  • Feb 3
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    Albert Grindstein

    We still have people that believe Drake outrapped Kendrick in the battle. The public matters just as much as skill. Kendrick can rap with the best of them; who is really going to be able to best him in a way that matters given the circumstances? That's the question, and again, I named people I think who have a shot. I don't think it's "impossible" I just think they have a long day f***ing with him.

    The public only matters so much when there is a machine billionaire who profits from either one winning . Drake wrong for suing while at same time UMG clearly benefits from Kendrick winning over Drake

    Drake clearly lost either way

  • Feb 3
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    I don’t think yall understand how devastating Noname would be to Dot, if she actually tried bro

    Kendrick would have to do a completely different approach altogether.

  • Feb 3
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    Back in original beefs there wasn’t a billionaire , ad machine , radio push to this degree beef has changed especially with social media era , bots ( used by Drake or his fans ) and so many other tactics . If it’s just the top rappers in the world battle rapping freestyles many people are beating Kendrick

  • Feb 3
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    BuryYaTaco

    The public only matters so much when there is a machine billionaire who profits from either one winning . Drake wrong for suing while at same time UMG clearly benefits from Kendrick winning over Drake

    Drake clearly lost either way

    I'm just saying bruh, who else can not only rap with you lyrically and technically (or at least close), but can also make a hit song against you, sway the public against you, hit you conceptually, get serious with you, clown you, over any type of production, using any type of vocal inflection, is culturally relevant enough, has the catalog, doesn't have any meaningful dirt on him, can take his time or bombard you at will, etc?

    Again, he's not impossible to beat, but look at how many boxes he checks off.

  • Feb 3
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    BuryYaTaco

    Back in original beefs there wasn’t a billionaire , ad machine , radio push to this degree beef has changed especially with social media era , bots ( used by Drake or his fans ) and so many other tactics . If it’s just the top rappers in the world battle rapping freestyles many people are beating Kendrick

    I mean the climate is the climate bruh but like I said in my last message even taking the machine out of the picture he still has those qualities. I think you got Kendrick f***ed up.

  • I think pusha would get him
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    Nba youngboy
    I dont think anyone can win a beef against him

  • Feb 3
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    Kee

    I don’t think yall understand how devastating Noname would be to Dot, if she actually tried bro

    Kendrick would have to do a completely different approach altogether.

    Pre 2023 noname yeah, but she already called herself a hypocrite that can also be bought because she's out here trying to survive too so it took away her biggest angle towards dot

  • SABMAN TURNT

    Noname would probably do him like how she did Cole

    If anyone cared to go at Noname as hard as she goes at people, it'd be quick work ngl

  • Feb 3
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    Albert Grindstein

    I mean the climate is the climate bruh but like I said in my last message even taking the machine out of the picture he still has those qualities. I think you got Kendrick f***ed up.

    I have listened to his songs countless times I am not underrating him . I’m saying if it’s battle rap at its core without the machine or media which it should be then many have him close

  • BuryYaTaco

    I have listened to his songs countless times I am not underrating him . I’m saying if it’s battle rap at its core without the machine or media which it should be then many have him close

    I mean I'll never disagree with "close" (depending on who it is)

  • Feb 3
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    Laced

    Pre 2023 noname yeah, but she already called herself a hypocrite that can also be bought because she's out here trying to survive too so it took away her biggest angle towards dot

    Just imagine how bad it would look on Dot

    “Dot’s a misogynist????”

    “How dare he question Noname???”

    Nigga wouldn’t survive the lashings of Twitter if that happened

  • Feb 3
    SABMAN TURNT

    Noname would probably do him like how she did Cole

    Honestly, I think it’ll be worst

  • Kee

    Just imagine how bad it would look on Dot

    “Dot’s a misogynist????”

    “How dare he question Noname???”

    Nigga wouldn’t survive the lashings of Twitter if that happened

    I think it would go the opposite factoring in her level rn

  • Feb 3
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    Kee

    Just imagine how bad it would look on Dot

    “Dot’s a misogynist????”

    “How dare he question Noname???”

    Nigga wouldn’t survive the lashings of Twitter if that happened

    I think a male rapper going at a female rapper in any context is a lose lose. It just is what it is. Mirror was a great way to address it without addressing her directly

  • Laced

    I think a male rapper going at a female rapper in any context is a lose lose. It just is what it is. Mirror was a great way to address it without addressing her directly

    yeah also this lol Kendrick aint doing that

  • Feb 3
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    I’m surprised nobody mentioned Krit unless I block people who said it

  • BuryYaTaco

    I have listened to his songs countless times I am not underrating him . I’m saying if it’s battle rap at its core without the machine or media which it should be then many have him close

    Then at that point it can't be songs. They'd have to get on stage. Do it real battle rap style. Songs, imo, Kendrick is really really hard to beat.

  • Feb 3
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    Albert Grindstein

    I'm just saying bruh, who else can not only rap with you lyrically and technically (or at least close), but can also make a hit song against you, sway the public against you, hit you conceptually, get serious with you, clown you, over any type of production, using any type of vocal inflection, is culturally relevant enough, has the catalog, doesn't have any meaningful dirt on him, can take his time or bombard you at will, etc?

    Again, he's not impossible to beat, but look at how many boxes he checks off.

    A lot of what you list here is based on popularity and favoritism . The recency bias of the beef means no one so it isn’t that good of a discussion. When you remove potential favoritism, machine and it’s just focused on battle rap it’s Closer than you think .

    This is like fresh out of the Drake meek beef when Drake fans said no one can beat him . Kendrick haters bro for a decade. Could have beat him throughout this time but waited until it made the most sense . When it would best benefit him

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