i forgot about the jack and jay z link. interesting
the guy is at Hov’s hip. And we’re to think after all of Drakes previous beefs that Hov had nothing to do with it?
but i thought drake was the industry? drake was hiphop? didnt he set up everything? give kendrick the information?
Drake been a problem for the music industry, earliest credit in music is as a songwriter, for Dre on Detox.
Jack Dorsey been mad at Drake since his girl modeled for OVO / NOCTA in 2021 iirc. Also currently holding a portion of Jay's ownership/Debt of Tidal.
Jay / Ye were worried about Drake from 2010 forward. Tried to do the lil bro fake friends thing. Worked at first until WTT. (Idea inspired directly by Wayne/Drake Young Angel, Young Lion tape)
Then Drake and Jay sub
(We Made It, 30 for 30, Pop Style Jay line, Sneakin) (other stuff I'm probably forgetting)
Diddy sent the 0-100 beat for Drake to write, Drake puts his version out, Diddy and Drake no longer cool.
DJ Drama, Hot 97, Jay, Meek, Diddy all come together for the 2015 Meek Ghost Writing Chapter. (Meek's initial reason prior to the Jay and company battery in the back is he wanted QM to write for him QM said no)
Then Jay tries to leverage Drake against Apple during Tidal rollout when the stream wars were heating up. Drake last minute says no to Tidal/Jay goes with Apple seemingly using the opportunity as get back for WTT/ Meek Mill (Ghost Writing). Jay low-key subs Drake back on Pop Style (Yes you missed it, why it's not on the album version, Drake using it as the single was a troll)
Rihanna dated him off and on for years but never claimed him publically. Including the 2016 stage moment where she claimed she was uncomfortable after the fact.
Same night she leaves with him.
Is seen the next day leaving the hotel wearing his shirt.
Ye and Drake been shaky for a decade.
(Wolves, Best I Ever Had Video, Lift Yourself Beat, Telling Pusha T about Adonis)
Megan woke up heard Her Loss bars and said Twitter was wylin, few hours later deleted those tweets decided it was a diss. (Saw the tweets myself)
Kanye said there was a group meeting Energized by the elimination of Drake.
Charlamagne openly said this isnt the first time there was a group effort against Drake.
Joe/AK both pointed out it's pretty obvious Kendrick Lamar didnt actually gain millions of fans over the course of 4 songs and 2 weeks on a global scale (you can't bot not a hit it has to have motion/YouTube/Spotify couldn't validate the streams for the first 5 days for the single release of NLU)
Pusha T - 2010-2018 - GOOD Music
Common - 2011/2012 - GOOD Music
Jay-Z - 2013/2016 - Roc Nation
The Weeknd 2013-2024 Republic
Kendrick - 2013-2024 - TDE/Interscope
Grammy's - 2015-2024 (Didn't like Hotline Bling being in Hip Hop category/ complained privately/publically, then stopped submitting with the exception of Her Loss for 21 Savage)
DJ Drama 2015-2020
Kanye 2016-2024 - GOOD Music
Joe Budden. 2016-2024
Kid Cudi 2016-2020 - GOOD Music
Megan The Stallion - 2022-2024 - Roc Nation
Rihanna 2016/2023-2024 Roc Nation
A$AP Rocky 2019-2024
Phonte - 2020-2024 ?(8AM in Charlotte has subs to Phonte, yes you missed it)
Jack Dorsey - 2021-2024 (Possibly sooner)
Rick Ross 2022-2024
Future 2022-2024
Metro 2022-2024
Spotify - 2020-2024 (Drake suggest artists get bonuses for streams/ 2021 Spotify offers a free week across the platform based on Drake's new album / Free streams count for less / the platform was free as a whole not just the Drake album/ Spotify ignores Drake's 100 Billion Record as the first artist on the platform)
Amazon - 2020-2024 Drakes Stake / Kick deal (Not streaming on Twitch exclusively)
It's pretty clear if you've been paying attention and I'm definitely missing stuff. My random addition to this.
TLDR
Y'all can have the 🐐
I'll take the 🦉
We all know who's who
Drake been a problem for the music industry, earliest credit in music is as a songwriter, for Dre on Detox.
Jack Dorsey been mad at Drake since his girl modeled for OVO / NOCTA in 2021 iirc. Also currently holding a portion of Jay's ownership/Debt of Tidal.
Jay / Ye were worried about Drake from 2010 forward. Tried to do the lil bro fake friends thing. Worked at first until WTT. (Idea inspired directly by Wayne/Drake Young Angel, Young Lion tape)
Then Drake and Jay sub
(We Made It, 30 for 30, Pop Style Jay line, Sneakin) (other stuff I'm probably forgetting)
Diddy sent the 0-100 beat for Drake to write, Drake puts his version out, Diddy and Drake no longer cool.
DJ Drama, Hot 97, Jay, Meek, Diddy all come together for the 2015 Meek Ghost Writing Chapter. (Meek's initial reason prior to the Jay and company battery in the back is he wanted QM to write for him QM said no)
Then Jay tries to leverage Drake against Apple during Tidal rollout when the stream wars were heating up. Drake last minute says no to Tidal/Jay goes with Apple seemingly using the opportunity as get back for WTT/ Meek Mill (Ghost Writing). Jay low-key subs Drake back on Pop Style (Yes you missed it, why it's not on the album version, Drake using it as the single was a troll)
Rihanna dated him off and on for years but never claimed him publically. Including the 2016 stage moment where she claimed she was uncomfortable after the fact.
Same night she leaves with him.
Is seen the next day leaving the hotel wearing his shirt.
Ye and Drake been shaky for a decade.
(Wolves, Best I Ever Had Video, Lift Yourself Beat, Telling Pusha T about Adonis)
Megan woke up heard Her Loss bars and said Twitter was wylin, few hours later deleted those tweets decided it was a diss. (Saw the tweets myself)
Kanye said there was a group meeting Energized by the elimination of Drake.
Charlamagne openly said this isnt the first time there was a group effort against Drake.
Joe/AK both pointed out it's pretty obvious Kendrick Lamar didnt actually gain millions of fans over the course of 4 songs and 2 weeks on a global scale (you can't bot not a hit it has to have motion/YouTube/Spotify couldn't validate the streams for the first 5 days for the single release of NLU)
Pusha T - 2010-2018 - GOOD Music
Common - 2011/2012 - GOOD Music
Jay-Z - 2013/2016 - Roc Nation
The Weeknd 2013-2024 Republic
Kendrick - 2013-2024 - TDE/Interscope
Grammy's - 2015-2024 (Didn't like Hotline Bling being in Hip Hop category/ complained privately/publically, then stopped submitting with the exception of Her Loss for 21 Savage)
DJ Drama 2015-2020
Kanye 2016-2024 - GOOD Music
Joe Budden. 2016-2024
Kid Cudi 2016-2020 - GOOD Music
Megan The Stallion - 2022-2024 - Roc Nation
Rihanna 2016/2023-2024 Roc Nation
A$AP Rocky 2019-2024
Phonte - 2020-2024 ?(8AM in Charlotte has subs to Phonte, yes you missed it)
Jack Dorsey - 2021-2024 (Possibly sooner)
Rick Ross 2022-2024
Future 2022-2024
Metro 2022-2024
Spotify - 2020-2024 (Drake suggest artists get bonuses for streams/ 2021 Spotify offers a free week across the platform based on Drake's new album / Free streams count for less / the platform was free as a whole not just the Drake album/ Spotify ignores Drake's 100 Billion Record as the first artist on the platform)
Amazon - 2020-2024 Drakes Stake / Kick deal (Not streaming on Twitch exclusively)
It's pretty clear if you've been paying attention and I'm definitely missing stuff. My random addition to this.
TLDR
Y'all can have the 🐐
I'll take the 🦉
We all know who's who
Charlamagne openly said this isnt the first time there was a group effort against Drake.
People forgot this too. Charlamagne also admitted it.
reddit.com/r/Drizzy/comments/1cjhlhf/charlamagne_says_there_has_been_a_concerted
Theres only so many “big people” in music who would actually target drake. Theres obviously a lot of big figures, but who would be interested in attacking Drake this much? It’s clearly Jay-Z. Its not Diddy. Diddy doesn’t give a s*** this much. It’s clearly Jay-Z’s obsession to take Drake down some way or some how.
Akademiks was basically saying a huge superstar was behind this
its not no damn Travis Scott… Travis holds no weight or influence.
hiphopdx.com/news/drake-surprise-enemy-akademiks-travis-scott
the drake stans mental breakdowns is crazy to watch.
kendrick beat drake in a rap battle dummies.
Can we please stop the Drake being the anti-industry rhetoric? He has a massively lucrative deal with the Disney of the music industry
Jack from Twitter being friends with Kendrick and Hov isnt the reason he lost lol
the drake stans mental breakdowns is crazy to watch.
kendrick beat drake in a rap battle dummies.
they fighting mental demons by the hour
let them be
Can we please stop the Drake being the anti-industry rhetoric? He has a massively lucrative deal with the Disney of the music industry
Jack from Twitter being friends with Kendrick and Hov isnt the reason he lost lol
no one said that.
Drake was being plotted on by industry leaders and OGs.
It’s pretty crazy how immediately threatened people like Hov and Ye were as early as 2010 by drake. I wonder what it was specifically that made them knew he was a problem
People have this preconceived idea that Drake was some lil dawg in his formative years.
Dude competing with the likes of Hov, Ye, Wayne and Em from like 2009-2013.
Ye and Hov tried to team up to one up the Drake and Wayne album and Take Care still outsold WTT.
After 2013, there was no stopping him. Drake’s run was going to happen whether they liked it or not.
Drake been a problem for the music industry, earliest credit in music is as a songwriter, for Dre on Detox.
Jack Dorsey been mad at Drake since his girl modeled for OVO / NOCTA in 2021 iirc. Also currently holding a portion of Jay's ownership/Debt of Tidal.
Jay / Ye were worried about Drake from 2010 forward. Tried to do the lil bro fake friends thing. Worked at first until WTT. (Idea inspired directly by Wayne/Drake Young Angel, Young Lion tape)
Then Drake and Jay sub
(We Made It, 30 for 30, Pop Style Jay line, Sneakin) (other stuff I'm probably forgetting)
Diddy sent the 0-100 beat for Drake to write, Drake puts his version out, Diddy and Drake no longer cool.
DJ Drama, Hot 97, Jay, Meek, Diddy all come together for the 2015 Meek Ghost Writing Chapter. (Meek's initial reason prior to the Jay and company battery in the back is he wanted QM to write for him QM said no)
Then Jay tries to leverage Drake against Apple during Tidal rollout when the stream wars were heating up. Drake last minute says no to Tidal/Jay goes with Apple seemingly using the opportunity as get back for WTT/ Meek Mill (Ghost Writing). Jay low-key subs Drake back on Pop Style (Yes you missed it, why it's not on the album version, Drake using it as the single was a troll)
Rihanna dated him off and on for years but never claimed him publically. Including the 2016 stage moment where she claimed she was uncomfortable after the fact.
Same night she leaves with him.
Is seen the next day leaving the hotel wearing his shirt.
Ye and Drake been shaky for a decade.
(Wolves, Best I Ever Had Video, Lift Yourself Beat, Telling Pusha T about Adonis)
Megan woke up heard Her Loss bars and said Twitter was wylin, few hours later deleted those tweets decided it was a diss. (Saw the tweets myself)
Kanye said there was a group meeting Energized by the elimination of Drake.
Charlamagne openly said this isnt the first time there was a group effort against Drake.
Joe/AK both pointed out it's pretty obvious Kendrick Lamar didnt actually gain millions of fans over the course of 4 songs and 2 weeks on a global scale (you can't bot not a hit it has to have motion/YouTube/Spotify couldn't validate the streams for the first 5 days for the single release of NLU)
Pusha T - 2010-2018 - GOOD Music
Common - 2011/2012 - GOOD Music
Jay-Z - 2013/2016 - Roc Nation
The Weeknd 2013-2024 Republic
Kendrick - 2013-2024 - TDE/Interscope
Grammy's - 2015-2024 (Didn't like Hotline Bling being in Hip Hop category/ complained privately/publically, then stopped submitting with the exception of Her Loss for 21 Savage)
DJ Drama 2015-2020
Kanye 2016-2024 - GOOD Music
Joe Budden. 2016-2024
Kid Cudi 2016-2020 - GOOD Music
Megan The Stallion - 2022-2024 - Roc Nation
Rihanna 2016/2023-2024 Roc Nation
A$AP Rocky 2019-2024
Phonte - 2020-2024 ?(8AM in Charlotte has subs to Phonte, yes you missed it)
Jack Dorsey - 2021-2024 (Possibly sooner)
Rick Ross 2022-2024
Future 2022-2024
Metro 2022-2024
Spotify - 2020-2024 (Drake suggest artists get bonuses for streams/ 2021 Spotify offers a free week across the platform based on Drake's new album / Free streams count for less / the platform was free as a whole not just the Drake album/ Spotify ignores Drake's 100 Billion Record as the first artist on the platform)
Amazon - 2020-2024 Drakes Stake / Kick deal (Not streaming on Twitch exclusively)
It's pretty clear if you've been paying attention and I'm definitely missing stuff. My random addition to this.
TLDR
Y'all can have the 🐐
I'll take the 🦉
We all know who's who
What was the Phonte diss on 8AM on Charlotte?
What was the Phonte diss on 8AM on Charlotte?
voodoo2
Oct 5, 2023
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drake/oli/noel/mark dropped some gems about this song in the album thread:
Apparently Drake's dissing Little Brother
Both Phonte & Big Pooh live near Charlotte
Also produced by Conductor Williams
They dissed him on a song called
Glory Glory:
Break a leg, nah, I train to kill
Rapping over vocals at shows, it shows you still leaning on training wheels
Thirty-five, time to pay the bill
Ayy, dunny, talk to 'em
A&R, I give a spark to 'em
&
Just 'cause you don't have a drink, that don't make you sober
And just 'cause you don't write it down, that don't make you Hova
Glory, glory, the end of my story's getting closer
Temperature rising, but the world is steady getting colder
Leave me alone, ring the alarm and tell the vultures
Stay the f*** out the garden if you gon' w**** the culture
@LongLiveHipHop ur saying if QM said yes to writing for meek, there would have been no drake/meek beef, no ghostwriter exposal, and a completely different trajectory.
cuz then, whats pusha gonna diss him about? and then, how would scorpion sound had pusha not dissed him? then will drake still be acting like a tough mafioso boss w Mob Ties?
all this butterfly effect s***
@LongLiveHipHop ur saying if QM said yes to writing for meek, there would have been no drake/meek beef, no ghostwriter exposal, and a completely different trajectory.
cuz then, whats pusha gonna diss him about? and then, how would scorpion sound had pusha not dissed him? then will drake still be acting like a tough mafioso boss w Mob Ties?
all this butterfly effect s***
I'm saying exactly what I said.
Meek's personal gripe in that moment initially was QM said no to writing for Meek. From there history happens.
QM still credited.
Yachty still credited.
Vory still credited.
Meek Mill didn't clear QM writing credit on RICO which is why we're still having this very boring ghost writer convo about credited writers today. About a guy who has been open about collaboration since 2009.
Pusha T was always jealous listen to his first Drake sub.

Scorpion probably would sound different.
Drake 2010 you gon' make someone around me catch a body like that
Drake 2021 To be real, man, I never did one crime
But none of my brothers could caption that line
Drake 2023 if Chubbs got on the chanel side bag you don't want to see him reach inside
Drake has been taking the same the whole time.
Drake's been making music since 2005/2006
I'm saying exactly what I said.
Meek's personal gripe in that moment initially was QM said no to writing for Meek. From there history happens.
QM still credited.
Yachty still credited.
Vory still credited.
Meek Mill didn't clear QM writing credit on RICO which is why we're still having this very boring ghost writer convo about credited writers today. About a guy who has been open about collaboration since 2009.
Pusha T was always jealous listen to his first Drake sub.
!https://youtu.be/EpU5ChiAdQc?si=vLQ7tjLWzbsp-HykScorpion probably would sound different.
Drake 2010 you gon' make someone around me catch a body like that
Drake 2021 To be real, man, I never did one crime
But none of my brothers could caption that line
Drake 2023 if Chubbs got on the chanel side bag you don't want to see him reach inside
Drake has been taking the same the whole time.
Drake's been making music since 2005/2006
never caught the Pusha one here….damn…all these years...
never caught the Pusha one here….damn…all these years...
No one really did little known secret. First ever sub from Pusha T, he caught feelings not Drake.
First ever sub from Kendrick (iffy but arguable)

I'm saying exactly what I said.
Meek's personal gripe in that moment initially was QM said no to writing for Meek. From there history happens.
QM still credited.
Yachty still credited.
Vory still credited.
Meek Mill didn't clear QM writing credit on RICO which is why we're still having this very boring ghost writer convo about credited writers today. About a guy who has been open about collaboration since 2009.
Pusha T was always jealous listen to his first Drake sub.
!https://youtu.be/EpU5ChiAdQc?si=vLQ7tjLWzbsp-HykScorpion probably would sound different.
Drake 2010 you gon' make someone around me catch a body like that
Drake 2021 To be real, man, I never did one crime
But none of my brothers could caption that line
Drake 2023 if Chubbs got on the chanel side bag you don't want to see him reach inside
Drake has been taking the same the whole time.
Drake's been making music since 2005/2006
Meek Mill didn't clear QM writing credit on RICO
Nope. When RICO came out Meek Mill didn’t even know that Quentin wrote the verse.