True. Mac Miller's career was different, though. He didn't reach the commercial peaks of a Macklemore or a G-Eazy but he had a more sustained career and a more loyal fan base if I can say that.

That obviously isn't Jack's trajectory since he's already super mainstream so it'll be interesting to see how long he can remain commercially relevant compared to those other dudes.

yeah but that's with the initial core hip hop fans and industry. Once a white rapper gets past that stage of their career it definitely gives them an advantage when you're talking about crossing over to mainstream pop. Which is what artists like Baby and Jack are doing at this part of their career

In the US, as long as white people throw their support behind something, it'll success. They're the majority after all.

Morgan Wallen got exposed as a racist and his career exploded to even greater heights of success. That tells you all you need to know about America.

Lmao man idk I used to be big into reaction videos for music and there were a lot of people that did that with Jack’s 2020 album very anecdotal point but yeah

most rappers fall out of that spotlight after a couple years.

Maybe it can happen faster for them because if they've lost the support of hip hop there's nowhere for them to go in between their big mainstream pop moments.

But most rappers can't pull off mainstream runs of more than a couple years. being able to stay hot for 5-10 years is basically what makes you an icon vs someone who had a moment

Yeah, his bars are very surface-level compared to most white rappers who have blown up. Macklemore was cringe but he could rap his ass off. Same with G-Eazy when he wanted. Same goes for NF and some other white cats. They can all really rap. That's like one of the only reasons why they even managed to get on in the first place but that a lack of that level of skill and ability doesn't seem to be an issue for Jack.

Well honestly I think at this point Mac Miller’s early work can be compared to Jack’s on strictly subject matter. Correct me if I’m wrong but I remember when Mac first came on the scene he was making that frat boy party rap similar to what Jack is making.

Mac Miller lasted so long because his music got real substantial later in his career and resonated with a lot more people than the frat rap did. If Jack goes a similar route he can easily have that same success.

That’s what I mean though I feel like it can particularly tricky for white rapper to maintain that core hip hop fanbase. That’s why Macklemore and G Eazy biggest hits are all straight up pop songs with rap verses, ya know?

Bad comparison. Niggas listen to Kodak. Niggas don’t really rock with Jack outside of young bw on twitter.

That’s my point exactly lol

There’s a reason Jack Harlow got a Vegas Residency when he only had 1 hit song

True. Mac's content, skill-level and general musicality really grew as he got older. At Jack's age, he was making a lot more mature music than as at when he was a teenager.

No denying that. It’s all about the legs of the career

Thread still ain't about Drake

How about this. I haven’t done reasesrch but I’m pretty sure none of Lil Baby’s hit songs have gotten much pop radio play or any at all.

When this Harlow song ends up at the top of pop radio charts then you will see the advantage it is to being a white rapper.

I agree with you it is harder to get picked as a white rapper and get poppin. But once u do it’s way easier to maneuver through the music industry.

easily

Yep a hot snippet will do that tbh. Same thing happened with Polo and Rapstar last year. This thread is so premature tbh. It’s wild to compare the two just off brah having one hot song when Baby got tons of them and hella cultural anthems.

I’m agreeing with you I think lol I totally understand that being white in the industry is a huge advantage. My point was more about getting there being the hard part so I agree with that

Yeah, this is very true. For example (for the people who think Drake has some latent half-white privilege working for him), God's Plan didn't reach the top 10 of Pop radio till after 10 consecutive weeks at #1 on the Hot 100. Meanwhile, an artist like Post Malone can reach the top 10 in 3 weeks with a random single. Same for other acts like Harry Styles, Dua Lipa, Ariana Grande, etc.

S*** was so crazy that Rolling Stone even wrote an article about how ridiculous it is that an artist as dominant/successful as Drake finds it hard to get airplay on Pop radio.

Rap singles have been on top of the Hot 100 for the past 26 weeks, and hip-hop has been the most consumed genre of music in the U.S. for 18 straight months. But these victories have not been mirrored in the world of Top 40 radio — even Drake, who routinely breaks streaming records, still faces a tough slog over the airwaves. “God’s Plan” had to spend 10 weeks as the Number One hit on the Hot 100 before it became a top 10 record at pop radio, and follow-up single “Nice for What” never made it into pop radio’s top 10 despite eight weeks as the biggest record in the nation.

rollingstone.com/music/music-features/drake-dominates-streaming-but-not-pop-radio-in-my-feelings-will-change-that-703798/amp

It's immature but I bet you'll be here dragging Jack if his album flops or doesn't perform well enough

black people don't get the same radio play as white people which is why pop artists songs tend to chart higher and longer

baby will 1000% do better numbers

These pop acts arent nearly as big as the labels would have you believe

Drake gets less radio play than Kid Laroi amost a year old song with Justin Bieber