internet buddy

2y

It’s simple, you either are helping Project 2025 happen or you aren’t. I don’t care about the reasons since I live in America, not Palestine or Ukraine or any other country fighting for independence.

NothingIs

2y

“if you don’t vote blue, project 2025”

well if the dems really need votes from people who support Palestine, they should try not funding a genocide against Palestinians

NothingIs

2y

“if you don’t vote blue, bad things will happen, but if you do vote blue, bad things will still happen except we pretend they don’t” f*** all the way off

afterimage

2y

sorry to tell you the Democrats don’t care about the working class either

because they haven’t drew up some fantasy plan to “retake” the federal government because republicans ran in being the party of le small government and realized most of the institutional power lies in the liberal left

In reality this is just the attempt at the reversal of decades of the Democrats occupying the federal government since the 1960s onward

it is okay not to care but that doesn’t change the fact that you’re two pro-imperialist candidates are currently both onboard for sending money to foreign troops and fighting in wars rather than invest here

That still affects you whether you care or not

The IDF also trains closely with American in cops in urban warefare, aka to put down street riots and protests akin to 2020.
Biden has fully supported the expansion of police state since 2020, as not as single police force has decreased funding since then. So I guess if you don’t care about how law enforcement will continue to expand and repress actual social movements in this country then you can also vote Biden

internet buddy

2y

“So I guess if you don’t care about how law enforcement will continue to expand and repress actual social movements in this country then you can also vote Biden”

Cops have always done this though, going back to the ‘60s at least. The problem is their budget giving them tanks. But even with no budget they still had firehoses and nightsticks.

afterimage

2y

correct, so you voting for Biden to “stop” project 2025 (doesn’t exist) doesn’t mean anything.

if you want to vote for Biden because you like the color blue or you just hate Trump that’s fair

But don’t say you’re doing it out of protecting any marginalized groups or even yourself for that much.

at most you might care how each candidate words things. Yeah if you like that the Democrats atleast pretend to care about the LGBTQ community then sure

afterimage

2y

correct, so you voting for Biden to “stop” project 2025 (doesn’t exist) doesn’t mean anything.

if you want to vote for Biden because you like the color blue or you just hate Trump that’s fair

But don’t say you’re doing it out of protecting any marginalized groups or even yourself for that much.

at most you might care how each candidate words things. Yeah if you like that the Democrats atleast pretend to care about the LGBTQ community then sure

internet buddy

2y

You downplaying conservatives is hilarious ngl

It’s all just propaganda, huh?

barry dillon

2y

as a US citizen, u get two choices for president. in this case, both choices have bad stances on the genocide in palestine.

what the f*** do you want me to do about that? Ur delusional if u think normal people have any realistic way to meaningfully combat that. I think it's disingenuous to say people are complacent in something if they have no control over it. if u disagree, at least give me something u want people to do instead of vote..

internet buddy

2y

Please explain this racism to me

internet buddy

2y

So you’re voting third party?

Himothee

2y

The non-interventionist approach is wrong too though. Pulling out and letting things resolve to its natural conclusion means Israel continues genociding and ethnic cleansing Palestinians.

If the Holocaust happened today, niggas wouldn’t be taking about “let Hitler vs Jews play out to its natural conclusion” because the natural conclusion would be millions of people killed and all of us just sitting back watching

ragedsycokiller

2y

I think for the majority of history, most of the world doesn't give af if a race of people are wiped out...

ThisAuburnNigga

2y

I struggle to think of how many presidents in the modern era of NATO, Israel-US relationships, US relationships with countries like Iran, etc, would legitimately tell Israel to stand down in all of this

I'm actually interested in the first guy people think would side with Palestine here. i'd have to think the discussion has to start with pre-Clinton names

afterimage

2y

sorry to tell you the Democrats don’t care about the working class either

because they haven’t drew up some fantasy plan to “retake” the federal government because republicans ran in being the party of le small government and realized most of the institutional power lies in the liberal left

In reality this is just the attempt at the reversal of decades of the Democrats occupying the federal government since the 1960s onward

it is okay not to care but that doesn’t change the fact that you’re two pro-imperialist candidates are currently both onboard for sending money to foreign troops and fighting in wars rather than invest here

That still affects you whether you care or not

The IDF also trains closely with American in cops in urban warefare, aka to put down street riots and protests akin to 2020.
Biden has fully supported the expansion of police state since 2020, as not as single police force has decreased funding since then. So I guess if you don’t care about how law enforcement will continue to expand and repress actual social movements in this country then you can also vote Biden

ThisAuburnNigga

2y

I wonder if people factor in how much more estranged Americans seemed to be on societal issues under Trump

I don't know statistically if there were more hate crimes under the guy - it definitely felt like the ones we did get were of higher publicity - but there's definitely that emboldening of his fans that I don't think can be overlooked when comparing one guy to the other

In terms of actual policy, I can totally see how someone would be discontent with either option

barry dillon

2y

keep in mind that the media is mostly left-leaning, and loves the narrative that Trump makes the country more hateful and violent.

not saying it's false, just that there's a possibility of misrepresentation

Giordano

2y

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To vote for Biden is to support an ongoing genocide