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  • Jan 8
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  • Jan 8
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    aaron xx

    can an american answer why yall love guns so much

    but oh no my first 2nd amendment right!! not my freedom!!! oh noooo

    we dont actually like them that much its just the nra is arguably the most successful organization at lobbying politicians

  • Jan 8
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    KayTray

    Conservatives calling her a domestic terrorists

    F***ing idiots

    If anyone is terrorizing people it’s ICE

    is there any sense in reasoning with these mfs anymore? it feels like they are beyond saving.

  • Jan 8
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    Prez

    the woman was told to get out of the car. she tried to flee. the cop stepped in front of her car. she kept driving.

    this was not good by the woman. it was very clearly illegal and all politics aside they were in her rights to arrest their for fleeing a traffic stop or whatever u want to call it- fleeing when told to get out of her car.

    however that does not mean deadly force was warranted. i honestly dont know what the laws are for whether cops can shoot someone in the head rather than just stepping out of the way of their car but i dont believe this was a just use of lethal force. i doubt cops are trained to step in front of cars to try and stop them, especially when its not like a terrorist or murderer or anything but just a citizen who hasn't really done anything.

    ERO deportation officers (which I'm assuming this guy was) are sworn police, but can't just stop someone for local and state statutes, including general obstruction of justice, which this may not have even been considered in most places (it looks like she was literally just driving). They are ONLY granted Title 8 authority.

    Unless the person who was driving the car was a subject of a deportation effort (administrative warrant), they can't legally detain that driver. Which includes stopping them, and especially includes trying to pull them out their own vehicle.

    Regardless, the shooting was completely unjustified. Stepping in front of a vehicle is generally considered a police-created exigency (read Kentucky v. King as an example supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/563/452). There's actually a lot of case law that rules deadly force against a moving vehicle that is not actively being used as a weapon as unconstitutional. (Scott v. Harris is a landmark case, but also Perea v. Baca, Baynes v. Cleland, and Estate of Cherry v. City of Hamilton off the top of my head)

    This is just talking legality though. Don't even know how someone can morally justify any of this without being a deeply evil person

  • Jan 8
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    aauraa

    we dont actually like them that much its just the nra is arguably the most successful organization at lobbying politicians

    Depends where in the country you are, in the northeast its kind of a whatever subject but the second you go to like texas they worship those bad boys

  • Jan 8
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    It’s kinda sad it took a white woman being killed for people to finally stop putting up with ICE

  • Jan 8
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    Karl Marx

    It’s kinda sad it took a white woman being killed for people to finally stop putting up with ICE

    Idk if this switched people over

  • Jan 8
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    eye contact

    Idk if this switched people over

    Didn’t see people marching in the streets for all of the brown victims of ICE

  • Karl Marx

    Didn’t see people marching in the streets for all of the brown victims of ICE

    But we have

  • UncMC 🏰
    Jan 8

    They won’t care till it’s them or their loved ones

  • Karl Marx

    It’s kinda sad it took a white woman being killed for people to finally stop putting up with ICE

    When you get your politics from Marvel movies

  • La Flama Blanca

    Depends where in the country you are, in the northeast its kind of a whatever subject but the second you go to like texas they worship those bad boys

    everytime theres a school shooting in texas the locals plead for gun control

  • UncMC 🏰
    Jan 8

    Let’s see if it happens again

  • hot pancakes

    This kinda the same argument racists use to justify police killing black people unjustifiably. “Why didn’t they just comply?”

    Thank you

    Not complying is never a reason to take someone's life

  • Karl Marx

    Didn’t see people marching in the streets for all of the brown victims of ICE

    Litterally all ICE protest there have been last year, has been for the brown victims of ICE

  • Jan 8
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    Karl Marx

    Didn’t see people marching in the streets for all of the brown victims of ICE

    You didn’t see all the protests in cali and Oregon and Minnesota before? A lot of people sick of that s***

  • ASAKI

    ERO deportation officers (which I'm assuming this guy was) are sworn police, but can't just stop someone for local and state statutes, including general obstruction of justice, which this may not have even been considered in most places (it looks like she was literally just driving). They are ONLY granted Title 8 authority.

    Unless the person who was driving the car was a subject of a deportation effort (administrative warrant), they can't legally detain that driver. Which includes stopping them, and especially includes trying to pull them out their own vehicle.

    Regardless, the shooting was completely unjustified. Stepping in front of a vehicle is generally considered a police-created exigency (read Kentucky v. King as an example https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/563/452/). There's actually a lot of case law that rules deadly force against a moving vehicle that is not actively being used as a weapon as unconstitutional. (Scott v. Harris is a landmark case, but also Perea v. Baca, Baynes v. Cleland, and Estate of Cherry v. City of Hamilton off the top of my head)

    This is just talking legality though. Don't even know how someone can morally justify any of this without being a deeply evil person

    This is good to know, but we're talking about Trump's admin here. Multiple layers of government agencies basically covering for each other in broad daylight.

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    Karl Marx

    Didn’t see people marching in the streets for all of the brown victims of ICE

    February 1st 2025, Atlanta

    February 21st 2025, LA

    June 11th 2025, NYC

    February 6th 2025, Houston

  • Prez 💎
    Jan 8
    ASAKI

    ERO deportation officers (which I'm assuming this guy was) are sworn police, but can't just stop someone for local and state statutes, including general obstruction of justice, which this may not have even been considered in most places (it looks like she was literally just driving). They are ONLY granted Title 8 authority.

    Unless the person who was driving the car was a subject of a deportation effort (administrative warrant), they can't legally detain that driver. Which includes stopping them, and especially includes trying to pull them out their own vehicle.

    Regardless, the shooting was completely unjustified. Stepping in front of a vehicle is generally considered a police-created exigency (read Kentucky v. King as an example https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/563/452/). There's actually a lot of case law that rules deadly force against a moving vehicle that is not actively being used as a weapon as unconstitutional. (Scott v. Harris is a landmark case, but also Perea v. Baca, Baynes v. Cleland, and Estate of Cherry v. City of Hamilton off the top of my head)

    This is just talking legality though. Don't even know how someone can morally justify any of this without being a deeply evil person

    Thank you, very helpful!!

  • LetHIMSortEmOut
    https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/2009034181163274465

    Such a f***ing loser

    I hate this guy

  • hot pancakes

    You didn’t see all the protests in cali and Oregon and Minnesota before? A lot of people sick of that s***

    Not to this scale, obviously there have been protests before

  • Jan 8
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    009

    February 1st 2025, Atlanta

    February 21st 2025, LA

    June 11th 2025, NYC

    February 6th 2025, Houston

    These are all tiny fractions of how many marching in Minneapolis and nyc right now

  • UncMC 🏰
    Jan 8
    Karl Marx

    These are all tiny fractions of how many marching in Minneapolis and nyc right now

    You wrong af bro let it go

  • Jan 8
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    Karl Marx

    These are all tiny fractions of how many marching in Minneapolis and nyc right now

    The fact is it's still happening, our job is to support agitation no matter the scale. The more people get involved the better, we're dealing with fascism here. There's no time to trip up over disproportionate outrage.

  • Jan 8

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