ryuH

11h

Cap 🧢

• There are no skips (for a NORMAL person some clowns will skip anything but they are irrelevant)

• Arguably the best rapping of his career with multiple verse of the year contenders (Make Them Pay, Make Them Remember, Firm Friends)

• pretty much unanimously the best production since his early career prime run 2011-2015

• easily his best project period since 2015 pretty much unanimously among the fan base

• commercial bounce back from being universally hated by the culture and vilified

• more entertaining and impressive album than GNX also better raps than GNX (it’s not just me saying this plenty of content creators have said this/debated this. If it wasn’t close people wouldn’t be talking about it. I love Dot btw but these are just facts)

• iconic video anthology for every song on the album that we haven’t seen executed at that scale since prime Kanye was doing s*** like Runaway

• subbed the entire industry (not just Kendrick) with clever wordplay on the scale of prime Hov when he was at his most condescending

• nothing else this year in its weight class except TFO (rap wise not entertainment wise) anybody telling you different is grossly underrating the raps on here and overrating whatever tf they talking bout

Ya’ll love downplaying s*** lol

Exactly like I said, most slept on downplayed classic oat imo

KayTray

8h

GNX at 22 weeks

ryuH

9h

You felt like you cooked with this one huh lol

You didn’t but I don’t feel like arguing because you just on the wrong side of history and it’s cool

Believe it or not there were people on the wrong side of history concerning every classic

I will say this though don’t talk to me bout Hov man I don’t mention him much these days but I am like the biggest Hov stan ever, I can rap every word he ever rapped with that same exact cadence he had lol. I am the equivalent of Shannon sharpe to LeBron when it comes to Hov lol. So when I say Drake is executing on that level I mean it, I was there lil bro

Also genuinely what are you skipping and genuinely what other Drake album has a higher density of skilled rapping than this? Yall love rebutting s*** and whining

“nooo it’s not!”

but don’t come with no substantive argument behind it

Andre Jaquet

6h

ur talking about substantive argumentation when these r just reasons u feel like u like the thing
ur just claiming its prime hov level rapping but nobody would agree with you unless they r a diehard Drake fan.
Im skipping 2 hard for the radio make them remember and firm friends p easily to answer the skips thing most ppl have skips on that album the writing is known p universally as the weakest part of the project
Again only actual argument for classic is me like album and album big

ryuH

5h

Yall niggas gonna have to understand at some point that just because you like rap music it doesn’t make you qualified to talk about rapping ability

Yall lil niggas wouldn’t know a good rhyme scheme, or flow, or cadence, or double entendre if it smacked you in the face

Just empty criticism based on “vibes” and “optics” (hoe tendencies lol)

Holla at me when you ready to decipher a verse lil niggas

Andre Jaquet

6h

ur talking about substantive argumentation when these r just reasons u feel like u like the thing
ur just claiming its prime hov level rapping but nobody would agree with you unless they r a diehard Drake fan.
Im skipping 2 hard for the radio make them remember and firm friends p easily to answer the skips thing most ppl have skips on that album the writing is known p universally as the weakest part of the project
Again only actual argument for classic is me like album and album big

ryuH

6h

My nigga said he skipping make them remember

I rest my case

And this the same mf talking to me bout what raps are on Hov’s level or not lmfao like foh lil bro respectfully

ryuH

5h

Yall niggas gonna have to understand at some point that just because you like rap music it doesn’t make you qualified to talk about rapping ability

Yall lil niggas wouldn’t know a good rhyme scheme, or flow, or cadence, or double entendre if it smacked you in the face

Just empty criticism based on “vibes” and “optics” (hoe tendencies lol)

Holla at me when you ready to decipher a verse lil niggas

MBA Playboy

5h

Dude these guys can’t even think to themselves and that’s why they rely on critics to judge drakes music lol

Andre Jaquet

4h

none of ts matters if the writing sucks
ur the one making the classic claim im hating if i disagree that its a classic now ok

ryuH

3h

wtf are you talking about bozo lol

The WRITING is exactly how s*** like rhyme schemes and double entendres get structured so how tf does it suck? Make it make sense gang

Oh it sucks because you and fantano say do right? It sucks because vibes lol. Oh no wait it sucks because it’s not about him reincarnating himself as an ancient being or some s*** lol. Or it sucks because it’s Drake right? Like nigga YOU suck at rap comprehension you ever think about that one?

Andre Jaquet

3h

I notoriously despise Fantano bro lol again I have a whole thread with hundreds of replies about what I think of critics

writing is about communicating emotion and ideas bro not rhyme schemes and s*** the most simple verse can be well written because it evokes emotion comes off genuine etc etc hence Eminem is a s***ty writer but good at ”technical rapping skill” Drake overly relies on lazy similes and corny bitter droning on and on about the problems he has w this guy or the other and I think it jsut doesn’t work that well a lot of the writing falls flat I’m not the one calling it a classic though so idk why ur making me say why it’s ass when u can’t say why it’s good. He’s had good writing before iceman isn’t a good example of that the stuff that’s supposed to feel icy or slick just feel corny bitter and sloppy idk what to tell u and I don’t really feel for him like that sometimes it’s good but it’s very inconsistent it’s either ass or cool his writing is something I deadass gotta ignore at a lot of parts

ryuH

2h

Well you talking to the wrong nigga dawg

All the “connect emotionally 🥹” s*** is cool but highly subjective and overrated

I fw rappers who can actually rap TECHNICALLY idgaf about none of these niggas emotions tf lol I mean don’t get me wrong sometimes a rapper can say some s*** that might touch my soul a lil bit but that’s not the only metric for good rap.

All that “corny” s*** is very lazy criticism btw imo, again that’s why I’m a technician head first, I like Dot AND Drake first and foremost for their ability to rap well, same reason I like Freddie Gibbs or Benny the Butcher. I connect more “emotionally” to Cole than all them fr but that’s not like a major concern of mine at all lol

And Em used to be technically astounding but he basic now, just raps fast and has clunky wordplay.

I feel like the goat rapper of emotional connection was Pac. A nigga that fixates on that wasn’t liking Biggie or Jay-Z. I’m the Biggie Jay-Z nigga scrap

Andre Jaquet

2h

all ts is subjective bro lol the fact u value the “technical rapping” thing is subjective just because u like it there is no more or less objective way to appreciate art the technical rapping thing anyway is based on glorifying mid 90s-early 2000s backpacker criteria it’s completely arbitrary really it’s a totally valid criticism to think a rapper is corny and doesn’t resonate or move me much esp w what they are trying to do