Musicians during all this: radio silence
We really in the worst era of art ever bro
tyler posted f*** ice for what its worth
Look this topic has been going on before you and I were even thought of.
As such , it’s a gray area, people are going to feel about it one way or the other.
You mentioned immigrants are the backbone of the country and are underpaid asf as you put it and I agree with you, which comes back to my first point .
The ones who hired them know this and pay them Pennies = technically they aren’t following the law and are hiring for slave labor in all actuality. They are the ones taking advantage of these people.
I understand why immigrants move to USA ,you got to be dumb asf to not know why immigrants flee they’re own country to seek asylum here. And yes ICE has been doing heinous s***.
But with all the news I’m seeing currently, I don’t think f***ing s*** up is going to help anybody
What do you suggest
Look this topic has been going on before you and I were even thought of.
As such , it’s a gray area, people are going to feel about it one way or the other.
You mentioned immigrants are the backbone of the country and are underpaid asf as you put it and I agree with you, which comes back to my first point .
The ones who hired them know this and pay them Pennies = technically they aren’t following the law and are hiring for slave labor in all actuality. They are the ones taking advantage of these people.
I understand why immigrants move to USA ,you got to be dumb asf to not know why immigrants flee they’re own country to seek asylum here. And yes ICE has been doing heinous s***.
But with all the news I’m seeing currently, I don’t think f***ing s*** up is going to help anybody
Man you were not talking about trying these companies for slave labor in your OG post. "ice is just doing their job, its a gray area and these companies need to be tried"
and welp what the f*** do you want people to do when families are being ripped apart and the law is not on your side and the only thing they actually protect or care about is property.
Scooters and waymo cars owned by billionaires OH NO
kidnapping people with no charges or due process is the problem. How people react to fascism isnt.
Man you were not talking about trying these companies for slave labor in your OG post. "ice is just doing their job, its a gray area and these companies need to be tried"
and welp what the f*** do you want people to do when families are being ripped apart and the law is not on your side and the only thing they actually protect or care about is property.
Scooters and waymo cars owned by billionaires OH NO
kidnapping people with no charges or due process is the problem. How people react to fascism isnt.
They’re not protesting the right way bro
tyler posted f*** ice for what its worth
This era so p**** man lmao.
When is enough money enough dawg?
mainstream artists are all compromised and leashed
it's hard to do that when your masters have to approve
60s artists had so much more backbone
They’re not protesting the right way bro
buddy said "what about the property"
60s artists had so much more backbone
certain lobbies weren't in that country in the 60s
Look this topic has been going on before you and I were even thought of.
As such , it’s a gray area, people are going to feel about it one way or the other.
You mentioned immigrants are the backbone of the country and are underpaid asf as you put it and I agree with you, which comes back to my first point .
The ones who hired them know this and pay them Pennies = technically they aren’t following the law and are hiring for slave labor in all actuality. They are the ones taking advantage of these people.
I understand why immigrants move to USA ,you got to be dumb asf to not know why immigrants flee they’re own country to seek asylum here. And yes ICE has been doing heinous s***.
But with all the news I’m seeing currently, I don’t think f***ing s*** up is going to help anybody
Give us a better alternative brosef?
60s artists had so much more backbone
way more, s***s sad but we been known
certain lobbies weren't in that country in the 60s
You was still liable to get literally lynched in the 60s too lmao.
I kinda dont wanna really hear it.
This era so p**** man lmao.
When is enough money enough dawg?
im sayin man
posting stuff on social media is a start but they needa put their money where their mouth is if they really want s*** to change
buddy said "what about the property"
I hear this s*** so much irl it’s f***ing nuts
Look this topic has been going on before you and I were even thought of.
As such , it’s a gray area, people are going to feel about it one way or the other.
You mentioned immigrants are the backbone of the country and are underpaid asf as you put it and I agree with you, which comes back to my first point .
The ones who hired them know this and pay them Pennies = technically they aren’t following the law and are hiring for slave labor in all actuality. They are the ones taking advantage of these people.
I understand why immigrants move to USA ,you got to be dumb asf to not know why immigrants flee they’re own country to seek asylum here. And yes ICE has been doing heinous s***.
But with all the news I’m seeing currently, I don’t think f***ing s*** up is going to help anybody
Violence works.
Violence works.
Nah breh hit the polls
I am not trying to talk s***, I am just trying to understand.
The information that I have found online is that ICE is deporting the illegal immigrated, not legal immigrants.
I am asking because if the government in my country said they wanted deport people who illegally came into the country, it would not be controversial.
I feel like I am missing something
ICE under the Biden administration in 2024 hit a 10 year high in deportations. The highest peak prior to that was during Obama. Biden also renewed contracts with private immigration prisons that were already well known for inhumane conditions.
The deportation and unethical mistreatment of illegal immigrants is really nothing new, though Democrats just don’t advertise it as much since the reactionary “us vs them” ideology isn’t generally a core component of their campaigns.
The question to be asked here is not “well, why can’t we deport illegal immigrants?”. Because, there really is nothing inherently unlawful about doing so. Being the “backbone of America” or whatever narrative doesn’t really change that. Though, you could certainly make a case for changing the law, improving or expanding access/pathways to legal citizenship, etc.
The question to be asked here is “Is the way we are deporting illegals immigrants lawful?”. And that’s the big difference with the Trump administration, where we are seeing gross violations of due process that are guaranteed to all people (regardless of citizenship) by the U.S. constitution. And the very scary thing is that many people almost seem to have been very easily convinced to believe that these illegal immigrants have no rights. Which is entirely false, on both an ethical and legal plane. And unfortunately a slippery slope into fascism.
Look this topic has been going on before you and I were even thought of.
As such , it’s a gray area, people are going to feel about it one way or the other.
You mentioned immigrants are the backbone of the country and are underpaid asf as you put it and I agree with you, which comes back to my first point .
The ones who hired them know this and pay them Pennies = technically they aren’t following the law and are hiring for slave labor in all actuality. They are the ones taking advantage of these people.
I understand why immigrants move to USA ,you got to be dumb asf to not know why immigrants flee they’re own country to seek asylum here. And yes ICE has been doing heinous s***.
But with all the news I’m seeing currently, I don’t think f***ing s*** up is going to help anybody
Look this topic has been going on before you and I were even thought of. As such , it’s a gray area, people are going to feel about it one way or the other.
I just have to address this part. As such, is not doing anything here. Slavery has been going on before you and I were even thought of, that doesn’t mean it’s a gray area. Just because we inherit an older problem doesn’t mean it’s a gray area. At some point in human history someone said we need to stop human sacrifice, and it wasn’t a gray area because people were doing it before they were born.
Now you can make a better argument that immigration a gray area, and I’m not here to argue against that, but your evidence(long ongoing topic) does not support your statement(it’s gray).
Now things that aren’t gray are the rights of due process. If these guys are saying they’re all about law and order then they need to follow the law. Get a warrant. The people aren’t going to let the government break the law to destroy their friends and families.
They really just might not know
A lot of normal ppl who don't pay attention probably have some sort of assumed trust in institutions. Until proven otherwise
That poster is probably pro-state though and i dont mean butthole
Oh brother this guy stinks
Look this topic has been going on before you and I were even thought of. As such , it’s a gray area, people are going to feel about it one way or the other.
I just have to address this part. As such, is not doing anything here. Slavery has been going on before you and I were even thought of, that doesn’t mean it’s a gray area. Just because we inherit an older problem doesn’t mean it’s a gray area. At some point in human history someone said we need to stop human sacrifice, and it wasn’t a gray area because people were doing it before they were born.
Now you can make a better argument that immigration a gray area, and I’m not here to argue against that, but your evidence(long ongoing topic) does not support your statement(it’s gray).
Now things that aren’t gray are the rights of due process. If these guys are saying they’re all about law and order then they need to follow the law. Get a warrant. The people aren’t going to let the government break the law to destroy their friends and families.
No one responding to me has a good argument and are just being reactionary to all this s*** .
Like yeah yeah f*** ice but what are you gonna do about it beside post about it