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  • WRU

    get a cheap chinese thing you dont need an apple product

    its funny how these days people use ipod for convenience when it was the most inconvenient gadget at the time it came out

    This is what I did

    I bought some knockoff iPod with like 160 something gigs

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    WRU

    get a cheap chinese thing you dont need an apple product

    its funny how these days people use ipod for convenience when it was the most inconvenient gadget at the time it came out

    don't really care about convenience

    have had and used mine for like 6 hours a day since 2008 and that f***er is still rolling

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    Jim Halpert

    hip hop fans are the most album centric fans of all genres. we don't get enough credit for appreciating bodies of work.

    so makes sense for other genres to not decline right now that aren't so album focsued

    just my take.

    That’s a great point too, it’s the most album-driven genre and 2020s mainstream rap albums have been overall subpar save for a few exceptions

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    hadji

    Also this is equivalent market share so if one genre goes up another has to go down, it’s based on your percentage of the pie

    exactly

    hip hop was #1 before, and now country probably is

    it’s just how the tides go

  • SABMAN TURNT

    exactly

    hip hop was #1 before, and now country probably is

    it’s just how the tides go

    Nah hip-hop is still #1, but the vast majority of its streams are coming from Deep Catalog music (music that is 60 months or older)

    Rock is 2nd, Pop is 3rd, Country is 4th

    When it comes to Current music (music that is 0-18 months old), World Music is 1st, Dance/Electronic is 2nd, Country is 3rd. Hip-Hop/R&B is second to last, Rock is last

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    Jim Halpert

    don't really care about convenience

    have had and used mine for like 6 hours a day since 2008 and that f***er is still rolling

    if you had one since 08 kudos but buying one right now is unnecessary

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    Who married Hip Hop to the charts?

    Charts is a construct for labels to measure they d*** size. Had never anything to do with what hip hop stood for.

  • WRU

    get a cheap chinese thing you dont need an apple product

    its funny how these days people use ipod for convenience when it was the most inconvenient gadget at the time it came out

    Don’t let them let me find my zune at my mom’s house

  • WRU

    if you had one since 08 kudos but buying one right now is unnecessary

    I can agree with this

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    BonelessWings

    Who married Hip Hop to the charts?

    Charts is a construct for labels to measure they d*** size. Had never anything to do with what hip hop stood for.

    I didn’t even know niggas wanted to win billboard awards before this nigga

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    BonelessWings

    Who married Hip Hop to the charts?

    Charts is a construct for labels to measure they d*** size. Had never anything to do with what hip hop stood for.

    coughdrakestanscough

  • shaleirose

    That’s a great point too, it’s the most album-driven genre and 2020s mainstream rap albums have been overall subpar save for a few exceptions

    yep. and with streaming conditioning people to not sit with albums anymore it makes sense for hip hop to not be as huge

  • Rappers have become uncool. The mainstream doesn’t give a single f*** about any upcoming rappers.

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    Dr Lee PhD

    I didn’t even know niggas wanted to win billboard awards before this nigga

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    Jim Halpert

    What could be happening

    Same thing that’s been happening, transition phase to genres being on more equal level playing field rather than rap having a dominant tight grip overpowering the rest of the industry partially due to other audiences being represented in streaming and partially because every few years there’s a higher and lower year for rap cuz everyone under the sun dropped 2024 and 2025 and the old are leaving while the new arrive.

  • BonelessWings

    man I miss MTV

    good times

  • BonelessWings

    What does MTV have to do with the rap being married to the charts?

    Billboard is literally the charts

  • Valentine

    it’s all just framing. hiphop is losing listeners who don’t have a reason to stick around anymore and are going back to their usual genres but the same hiphop listeners who’ve been here are still there with more longtime listeners being added

    hiphop isn’t declining, it’s just going back to the level it was at before streaming blew up and that’s still dominating. it’s just gonna go back to sharing that space of hit music with pop, edm, and country with neither having as large a dominance as hiphop which is still 1 in every 4 streams

    Basically this ya

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    Andre Jaquet
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    Same thing that’s been happening, transition phase to genres being on more equal level playing field rather than rap having a dominant tight grip overpowering the rest of the industry partially due to other audiences being represented in streaming and partially because every few years there’s a higher and lower year for rap cuz everyone under the sun dropped 2024 and 2025 and the old are leaving while the new arrive.

    the old are leaving while the new arrive

    (looks at highest selling rap albums the last 4 years)

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    Jim Halpert

    the old are leaving while the new arrive

    (looks at highest selling rap albums the last 4 years)

    While the new arrive is me saying they are still on the rise not yet replaced or dominating as I said transition phase. Either way ya it’s basically just a return to other genres having space to exist commercially

  • XavierMane

    coughdrakestanscough

    I honestly think its this moment:

    Interscope vs Def Jam - both UMG btw

    I guess UMG just ran that s*** back with Drake and Dot

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    Andre Jaquet

    While the new arrive is me saying they are still on the rise not yet replaced or dominating as I said transition phase. Either way ya it’s basically just a return to other genres having space to exist commercially

    how long do you see this transition phase happening? I did think I'd see smino Kenny mason baby keem ECT dominating by now but they didn't

    also I feel like Diamond has that potential

  • BonelessWings

    I honestly think its this moment:

    Interscope vs Def Jam - both UMG btw

    I guess UMG just ran that s*** back with Drake and Dot

    well yeah man that s*** works

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    only like 5 rappers have mattered to the public ever since 2023

    wale said something about this like last week lol people only talk about 3 rappers nobody besides don and some others really cut through

  • No artists in rap rn, only grifters. Somebody needs to make rap with artistic value/merit, simple as.

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