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  • Jul 13, 2021
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    space0cadet

    Yep if they're counter revolutionary and or directly working with the U.S

    Not if they're protesting for good reason, that's bad OFC

    I appreciate that last sentence a lot.

    But do realize that regarding the first sentence, even if they were counter revolutionary and directly working with the U.S., that innocent people will very likely get hurt, if not solely innocent people.

    I don't think violence is the solution to anything. Especially when you call upon the people to act vigilante.

  • spongebob 🪼
    Jul 13, 2021
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    oh? i thought the worst president of all time as ranked in 2021 by the presidential historians survey said something:

    c-span.org/presidentsurvey2021/?page=overall

  • Jul 13, 2021
    spongebob

    oh? i thought the worst president of all time as ranked in 2021 by the presidential historians survey said something:

    https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2021/?page=overall

    Buchanan was the very worst president of all time. I appreciate the interest in my username. It originally came from a joke here when I saw his name mentioned. I think it even was about who the worst president was or something. Fun fact, he was actually the president before Lincoln too! Also might have been a homosexual or Asexual

  • Jul 13, 2021
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    Buchan

    One more time then. The original quote.

    "The order to fight has been given - into the street, revolutionaries."

    No call to violence apparently. No endorsement to fight in the streets by the Cuban leader apparently.

    Lmfao how is this a call for violence

  • Jul 13, 2021
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    Buchan

    Which is exactly why Trump should be in jail for inciting violence, at the very least. Capitol storming is one of the worst political crimes in America, of all time. A direct threat to democracy.

    Nobody gives a f*** about Trump and it's funny how you assume that

  • Jul 13, 2021
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    Buchan

    I appreciate that last sentence a lot.

    But do realize that regarding the first sentence, even if they were counter revolutionary and directly working with the U.S., that innocent people will very likely get hurt, if not solely innocent people.

    I don't think violence is the solution to anything. Especially when you call upon the people to act vigilante.

    Violence is bad! Except if an embargo causes hardship and excess illnesses and deaths, then it's good!

  • Jul 13, 2021
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    ARCADE GOON

    Lmfao how is this a call for violence

    Give it a little thought.

  • Jul 13, 2021
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    Anyone who sticks with the “stateless, classless, moneyless” society version of communism is a child living in a fantasy world. They will be dead and nothing even remotely close to whatever that is will exist. So I’ll take state communism whether it’s in name only or not, it’s at least practical. You want actual progressive policy done, you need to think about politics in a functional reality.

  • Jul 13, 2021
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    Buchan

    Give it a little thought.

    It's not, you're reaching hard and deep down inside you know this too.

  • Jul 13, 2021
    ARCADE GOON

    Nobody gives a f*** about Trump and it's funny how you assume that

    Ok? It's a very similar topic of "what is inciting violence", which was the point.

  • Jul 13, 2021
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    Fella

    Anyone who sticks with the “stateless, classless, moneyless” society version of communism is a child living in a fantasy world. They will be dead and nothing even remotely close to whatever that is will exist. So I’ll take state communism whether it’s in name only or not, it’s at least practical. You want actual progressive policy done, you need to think about politics in a functional reality.

    Communists believe in both dawg. Ur right in the short time there will be a state, later it will decentralize to the point it cannot be called a state in the current sense anymore

  • Jul 13, 2021
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    ARCADE GOON

    Communists believe in both dawg. Ur right in the short time there will be a state, later it will decentralize to the point it cannot be called a state in the current sense anymore

    Not gonna happen

  • Jul 13, 2021
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    ARCADE GOON

    Violence is bad! Except if an embargo causes hardship and excess illnesses and deaths, then it's good!

    Just like dictatorships are good, am I right?

    By the way, I am also against the Embargo and I think it is a crime against humanity.

  • Jul 13, 2021
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    Fella

    Not gonna happen

    Thats literally what communism means bro

    The difference to anarchists is that communists believe there must be a lengthy transition stage called socialism in between

    Cuba is a socialist state in that sense and has a communist party guiding the transition

  • Jul 13, 2021
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    Buchan

    Just like dictatorships are good, am I right?

    By the way, I am also against the Embargo and I think it is a crime against humanity.

    Dictatorship = anything that doesnt fit my pre-conceived notion of Western parliamentarianism

  • Jul 13, 2021
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    ARCADE GOON

    It's not, you're reaching hard and deep down inside you know this too.

    How. I honestly don't get it. I understand you have an agenda and all, but what else does he have to say before you see it as inciting violence? He literally said that people should fight and go into the streets to face the protestors. How can you you see that as not inciting? Even if it wasn't intended that way, how could it possibly not incite people?

  • Jul 13, 2021
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    ARCADE GOON

    Thats literally what communism means bro

    The difference to anarchists is that communists believe there must be a lengthy transition stage called socialism in between

    Cuba is a socialist state in that sense and has a communist party guiding the transition

    You’re aware that the writing on communism and what form exactly it will actually take is hugely debated and has been for over a hundred years. There’s plenty of different schools of thought on this beyond the basic “authoritarian/libertarian” divide between the left.

  • Jul 13, 2021
    Buchan

    How. I honestly don't get it. I understand you have an agenda and all, but what else does he have to say before you see it as inciting violence? He literally said that people should fight and go into the streets to face the protestors. How can you you see that as not inciting? Even if it wasn't intended that way, how could it possibly not incite people?

    Because ur completely ignoring the context of this speech

    Post the full speech and he is even sympathetic to the honest protestors

  • Jul 13, 2021
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    ARCADE GOON

    Dictatorship = anything that doesnt fit my pre-conceived notion of Western parliamentarianism

    Dictatorship = no real elections and the same guy is in charge for 50 years while he's hoarding the peoples wealth.

  • Jul 13, 2021
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    Buchan

    Dictatorship = no real elections and the same guy is in charge for 50 years while he's hoarding the peoples wealth.

    So like the US

    Presidents change, but US policies barely change, why?

  • Jul 13, 2021
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    Fella

    You’re aware that the writing on communism and what form exactly it will actually take is hugely debated and has been for over a hundred years. There’s plenty of different schools of thought on this beyond the basic “authoritarian/libertarian” divide between the left.

    Im on ur side dawg

    Ur right that this endstage might not happen in our lifetimes

    Im just saying thats the theoretical endgoal as of now

  • Jul 13, 2021
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    ARCADE GOON

    Im on ur side dawg

    Ur right that this endstage might not happen in our lifetimes

    Im just saying thats the theoretical endgoal as of now

    Gotcha, I’m with you too. I just would rather not get bogged down in the theoretical and aim towards more grounded possibilities.

  • Jul 13, 2021
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    Buchan

    Dictatorship = no real elections and the same guy is in charge for 50 years while he's hoarding the peoples wealth.

    Democracy is when red and blue team change and both serve the corporate interests but feign differences so the proles can treat it like rooting for their sports team

    Democracy is when the richest 3 people own more than the bottom half of the country combined

    But at least u can vote for one of two candidates with some alibi third party candidates thrown in

  • Jul 13, 2021
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    Fella

    Anyone who sticks with the “stateless, classless, moneyless” society version of communism is a child living in a fantasy world. They will be dead and nothing even remotely close to whatever that is will exist. So I’ll take state communism whether it’s in name only or not, it’s at least practical. You want actual progressive policy done, you need to think about politics in a functional reality.

    why do y'all always sit here and talk about "progressive policy"

    mfer, we want more than a few bread and crumbs. we want the workers to own the means of production, we want the end of US and western imperialism, we want the end of all exploitative relationships

  • Jul 13, 2021
    BnBallinToo

    So like the US

    Presidents change, but US policies barely change, why?

    Because the usa is a horribly flawed country that needs to get it's act together and move towards a social democratic policy while reforming the entire process and things like the electoral college and the supreme court.

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