look idk where i remember this from but apparently this song was gonna drop as his last ever song if mbdtf flopped is there any credit to this or just a load of whispers that came from some rando

The song was kinda thought to be a suicide note too - according to some folks here and a youtuber

Even if you don't believe the whole "suicide note" theory, it's very clear that Kanye wasn't in a good headspace based on the lyrics of that song. Whether he was actually going to kill himself or not, he literally says "it'll be a long time before you ever see me again" and that by itself is enough evidence that he was on the verge of disappearing from the public

I also don't think Kanye or anybody from his team should ever verify whether the suicide rumor is true...mostly because if you check the comments section under the video, it's a bunch of people talking about how they overcame suicidal thoughts and a lot of them used this song to help them recover. At this point the song and the suicide theory are larger-than-life and they should just stay that way because they seem to be having a positive impact on people. Confirming/denying the validity of the rumor would take away from how people have connected to the song.

i was gonna mention that but i felt like i was tripping for even remembering that

i think the suicide thing was always an exaggeration but a quitting music song seems reasonable

Never thought of it as a suicide song.

Just seems like a retirement song more than anything.

Goat outro as well.
If this dropped it would be comparable to Last Call in my opinion

I thought it leaked before MBDTF era was even underway, the rumor was the album was gonna be his last

"it'll be a long time before you ever see me again" implies it's not about suicide

iirc he recorded this post-night of the Taylor VMAs or around that time.

He was definitely gonna take time away from the public, not suicide.

Definitely wasn’t the night after

i always found the tone to be kinda sarcastic on that line

especially bc the title is never see me again

Not sure if anyone else will remember this but wasn’t this also during the time of the rumored Spring/Summer/Fall/Winter season albums too??

never read the part about it being released if MBDTF flopped but i def heard about the suicide type stuff

Winter/Spring/Summer/Fall was announced like 2-3 weeks after 808s dropped but I think the concept was very short lived because by the time the Taylor Swift stuff happened, he was back to working on rap music.

The source for this is extremely flimsy, I remember reading it on some hip hop blog I've never heard of a long ass time ago but apparently the first single for whatever that album was supposed to be was going to be released later that month, and the album would come in December. Obviously the VMA's put a stop to all of those plans.

bro this was gonna be his last song before just completely moving to the fashion world. made before mbdtf.

I’ve never thought that he was in a bad headspace in that song. He’s speaking sarcastically. Listen to the lyrics, he sounds defeated but in a lone wolf sort of way not suicide