not sure if this was posted but fun read
https://maximumexposureinc.substack.com/p/you-dont-actually-like-the-band-geese
He's not wrong.
I don't like the band geese. And I'm tired of pretending that I do.
As a matter of fact, I LOVE the band Geese!
bro thinks nobody cared about childish gambino until some marketing company posted some comments on a video
why would you take chaotic good at face value, this is deadass how these marketing companies make money is by convincing people they can move the needle. No marketing has any impact on whether the music itself is actually good or not
Childish gambino and Zara Larson videos would still get clicks without chaotic good, because they actually have fans dude I’m crying at this substack
can't wait to get killed by AXS next week when I can't buy a ticket
I actually managed to get a single ticket whew
I actually managed to get a single ticket whew
wtf how were you in a smaller city? congrats though I saw 35k queues for s*** like philly, I feel like you need to be like 500 to even get a chance 😭
wtf how were you in a smaller city? congrats though I saw 35k queues for s*** like philly, I feel like you need to be like 500 to even get a chance 😭
I was in boston and it looked like it sold out already but then I refreshed a couple more times on my phone instead of my pc and it worked
They also added a second date in boston and will probably add a third if I had to guess
😤based
Of ALL TIME?! they need to relax
I’m still listening to Getting Killed too. Psy-op be damned, I remember where I was the first time I heard 3D Country.
I’m still listening to Getting Killed too. Psy-op be damned, I remember where I was the first time I heard 3D Country.
I rmbr it too I think we were in the same chaotic good focus group
Would anyone be mad at me if I said I think Getting Killed is the best album of the 2020’s
@sfsorrow have you read the new Rolling Stone interview? Hope our boy is doing okay
For all of his independence, though, he’s troubled by the idea that other people find his band’s music challenging. Take the reaction to their Saturday Night Live performance, all the confused and hostile comments from viewers unfamiliar with Geese’s game.
“It really f***ed me up just how hard people took it,” he tells me. “Of course, there were plenty of music-nerd people who loved it, but I felt like the reason they loved it was almost because it was sticking it to these average people who just turn on SNL after work. It depressed the s*** out of me, because that’s not what I was trying to do. It’s not like I wanted to play a f***ing song in a weird time signature that’s really loud and repetitive, and then just be like, ‘Ha, ha, you don’t get it like we do.’” He thumbs his nose, waggling his fingers impishly. “That’s stupid. But a lot of what we do gets seen as that. I don’t know how to fix that.”
He’s been struggling with how to balance these concerns in the new music he’s working on — the desire to make something that expresses his unique point of view, while also being accessible to listeners. “It’s hard,” he says. “I used to write songs with interesting, difficult almost, chords in them, and now it’s like I-IV-V until the cows come home.” Even a mildly unorthodox musical choice feels pretentious to him now: “It’s actually getting worse and worse. It’s like the f***ing rut is getting deeper and deeper, because then I do a ii chord, and I’m just like, ‘Ew. What are you, f***ing Keith Jarrett, you piece of s***?’”
It’s a funny line, but I can’t help noticing the thread of harsh self-critique that runs through much of what he says. Starting to feel a little like an unlicensed therapist, I ask Winter where that comes from. “I don’t know, my Semitic side?” he jokes.
Gesturing at the madness that has surrounded Geese for the past year, he says, “There are parts of it that are hard for me, in particular. Like, even Max, for example, he’s better at dealing with all of this than me. It hurts my feelings a lot. It’s just a drag. It’s like I said before: It feels like everyone else has lost their f***ing minds, and everything that is good that’s happened to me and bad that’s happened to me is the work of other people from start to finish, and it’s just a big f***ing maelstrom, and honestly, I’d rather not be part of it.”
When he was younger, he sometimes wondered what it would be like to be in this position. He doesn’t have to wonder anymore. “Like, why do bands break up when they’re so popular? Oh, don’t I know now,” he says. “It’s actually a miracle bands don’t break up sooner.” He laughs morosely, and lowers his voice. “I just want to feel like a person, an actual person. It doesn’t make you feel good to feel like more than a person.”
@sfsorrow have you read the new Rolling Stone interview? Hope our boy is doing okay
For all of his independence, though, he’s troubled by the idea that other people find his band’s music challenging. Take the reaction to their Saturday Night Live performance, all the confused and hostile comments from viewers unfamiliar with Geese’s game.
“It really f***ed me up just how hard people took it,” he tells me. “Of course, there were plenty of music-nerd people who loved it, but I felt like the reason they loved it was almost because it was sticking it to these average people who just turn on SNL after work. It depressed the s*** out of me, because that’s not what I was trying to do. It’s not like I wanted to play a f***ing song in a weird time signature that’s really loud and repetitive, and then just be like, ‘Ha, ha, you don’t get it like we do.’” He thumbs his nose, waggling his fingers impishly. “That’s stupid. But a lot of what we do gets seen as that. I don’t know how to fix that.”
He’s been struggling with how to balance these concerns in the new music he’s working on — the desire to make something that expresses his unique point of view, while also being accessible to listeners. “It’s hard,” he says. “I used to write songs with interesting, difficult almost, chords in them, and now it’s like I-IV-V until the cows come home.” Even a mildly unorthodox musical choice feels pretentious to him now: “It’s actually getting worse and worse. It’s like the f***ing rut is getting deeper and deeper, because then I do a ii chord, and I’m just like, ‘Ew. What are you, f***ing Keith Jarrett, you piece of s***?’”
It’s a funny line, but I can’t help noticing the thread of harsh self-critique that runs through much of what he says. Starting to feel a little like an unlicensed therapist, I ask Winter where that comes from. “I don’t know, my Semitic side?” he jokes.
Gesturing at the madness that has surrounded Geese for the past year, he says, “There are parts of it that are hard for me, in particular. Like, even Max, for example, he’s better at dealing with all of this than me. It hurts my feelings a lot. It’s just a drag. It’s like I said before: It feels like everyone else has lost their f***ing minds, and everything that is good that’s happened to me and bad that’s happened to me is the work of other people from start to finish, and it’s just a big f***ing maelstrom, and honestly, I’d rather not be part of it.”
When he was younger, he sometimes wondered what it would be like to be in this position. He doesn’t have to wonder anymore. “Like, why do bands break up when they’re so popular? Oh, don’t I know now,” he says. “It’s actually a miracle bands don’t break up sooner.” He laughs morosely, and lowers his voice. “I just want to feel like a person, an actual person. It doesn’t make you feel good to feel like more than a person.”
bro YES I was literally gonna make a post in here about this itt, he sounds so overwhelmed with it all now and I hate he's second guessing himself so much
I can't even blame him, imagine you blow up off your niche style and every person on earth is telling you you didn't earn it and bought it when you had no conscious hand in it. the snl response affecting him really sucks too because you can tell he hates he's being pigeonholed like this on both sides
thing about cam is the hype is so deserved, he's an incredible songwriter, has a crazy pop/melodic sensibility and is an amazing unique vocalist. he deserves all the love and he shouldn't second guess his gifts ever. hopefully he breaks through this and remembers hes our GOAT
bro YES I was literally gonna make a post in here about this itt, he sounds so overwhelmed with it all now and I hate he's second guessing himself so much
I can't even blame him, imagine you blow up off your niche style and every person on earth is telling you you didn't earn it and bought it when you had no conscious hand in it. the snl response affecting him really sucks too because you can tell he hates he's being pigeonholed like this on both sides
Really hoping he can shake it off, lack of confidence + hyper awareness of how your art is perceived is a killer.
The level of discourse is horrendous man. We have a generational songwriter with an incredible voice (not to mention the rest of the band) yet far too much of online discussion is oriented around "muh psyop" or how their music is too pretentious, plus all the weird s*** going on with his romantic life. Just have to focus on what's actually tangible, like the thousands of emphatic fans packing out concerts and fighting with each other to see you, while tuning out all the other noise.
Really hoping he can shake it off, lack of confidence + hyper awareness of how your art is perceived is a killer.
The level of discourse is horrendous man. We have a generational songwriter with an incredible voice (not to mention the rest of the band) yet far too much of online discussion is oriented around "muh psyop" or how their music is too pretentious, plus all the weird s*** going on with his romantic life. Just have to focus on what's actually tangible, like the thousands of emphatic fans packing out concerts and fighting with each other to see you, while tuning out all the other noise.
People want something different in music until they actually get it.
To your point I hope he can push through, his and Geese's music will benefit from it.
@sfsorrow have you read the new Rolling Stone interview? Hope our boy is doing okay
For all of his independence, though, he’s troubled by the idea that other people find his band’s music challenging. Take the reaction to their Saturday Night Live performance, all the confused and hostile comments from viewers unfamiliar with Geese’s game.
“It really f***ed me up just how hard people took it,” he tells me. “Of course, there were plenty of music-nerd people who loved it, but I felt like the reason they loved it was almost because it was sticking it to these average people who just turn on SNL after work. It depressed the s*** out of me, because that’s not what I was trying to do. It’s not like I wanted to play a f***ing song in a weird time signature that’s really loud and repetitive, and then just be like, ‘Ha, ha, you don’t get it like we do.’” He thumbs his nose, waggling his fingers impishly. “That’s stupid. But a lot of what we do gets seen as that. I don’t know how to fix that.”
He’s been struggling with how to balance these concerns in the new music he’s working on — the desire to make something that expresses his unique point of view, while also being accessible to listeners. “It’s hard,” he says. “I used to write songs with interesting, difficult almost, chords in them, and now it’s like I-IV-V until the cows come home.” Even a mildly unorthodox musical choice feels pretentious to him now: “It’s actually getting worse and worse. It’s like the f***ing rut is getting deeper and deeper, because then I do a ii chord, and I’m just like, ‘Ew. What are you, f***ing Keith Jarrett, you piece of s***?’”
It’s a funny line, but I can’t help noticing the thread of harsh self-critique that runs through much of what he says. Starting to feel a little like an unlicensed therapist, I ask Winter where that comes from. “I don’t know, my Semitic side?” he jokes.
Gesturing at the madness that has surrounded Geese for the past year, he says, “There are parts of it that are hard for me, in particular. Like, even Max, for example, he’s better at dealing with all of this than me. It hurts my feelings a lot. It’s just a drag. It’s like I said before: It feels like everyone else has lost their f***ing minds, and everything that is good that’s happened to me and bad that’s happened to me is the work of other people from start to finish, and it’s just a big f***ing maelstrom, and honestly, I’d rather not be part of it.”
When he was younger, he sometimes wondered what it would be like to be in this position. He doesn’t have to wonder anymore. “Like, why do bands break up when they’re so popular? Oh, don’t I know now,” he says. “It’s actually a miracle bands don’t break up sooner.” He laughs morosely, and lowers his voice. “I just want to feel like a person, an actual person. It doesn’t make you feel good to feel like more than a person.”
He'll be fine. I'd be more concerned about his upcoming work if he wasn't conscious of these things.