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  • Oct 9, 2023
    Himothee

    literally nothing in his tweet points her or others not being raped

    there’s a video of a girl being taken out of a van and with blood on the back of her pants, seems very like she was raped.

    Dont get me wrong, IDF and Zioninsts have done truly heinous and disgusting things over the decades and Israel is an illegitimate state, but we should remain consistent from a moral perspective and admit that some hamas soldiers did some f***ed up s***

    I thought it was s***. If she was raped that badly she wouldnt be able to walk properly

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    Plight

    How are you not embarrassed infantilizing yourself like this? Is there not an atom of curiosity inside of you?

    I can’t support either Hamas or the IDF. All I know is a lot of people who aren’t involved with those people but live in that area are gonna suffer.

    Unlike you, I’m not gonna associate myself with a side that oppresses, rapes and murders and that’s both of those groups at this point.

    Do better.

  • Oct 9, 2023
    austin_butler_fan4

    so war brings out the worst in ppl so israelis and ukrainians are also raping everyone?

    kinda hard for the ukrainians to rape russians when ain’t none of them in russia

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    Maccaveli101

    I can’t support either Hamas or the IDF. All I know is a lot of people who aren’t involved with those people but live in that area are gonna suffer.

    Unlike you, I’m not gonna associate myself with a side that oppresses, rapes and murders and that’s both of those groups at this point.

    Do better.

    Unlike me you aren't adult enough to inform yourself about reality but rather stick your head in the sand. Infantilizing yourself under the excuse that everything is equally as bad.

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    Resistance against colonizers, which is what this is, is good. End of story. Everything else the nazis @tgdaddy @leif_erikson talk about is not the objective of this resistance. It's little rats trying to deflect from the issue.

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    very surprised CNN aired this, great interview

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    Plight

    Unlike me you aren't adult enough to inform yourself about reality but rather stick your head in the sand. Infantilizing yourself under the excuse that everything is equally as bad.

    I can see with my eyes that both sides are awful.

    Doesn’t have to be equally but they can so both be bad regardless.

  • Oct 9, 2023

    How dare the palestinians not allow the israelis to kill them and take all their land

    Some absolute f***ing retards in here

  • Oct 9, 2023
    Himothee

    literally nothing in his tweet points her or others not being raped

    there’s a video of a girl being taken out of a van and with blood on the back of her pants, seems very like she was raped.

    Dont get me wrong, IDF and Zioninsts have done truly heinous and disgusting things over the decades and Israel is an illegitimate state, but we should remain consistent from a moral perspective and admit that some hamas soldiers did some f***ed up s***

    There is literally no proof of rape other than BS propaganda claiming there is rape with zero evidence.

    "Seems very likely she was raped" isnt actual evidence. She was a soldier at war.

  • Oct 9, 2023

    Settlers are not civillians

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    Maccaveli101

    I can see with my eyes that both sides are awful.

    Doesn’t have to be equally but they can so both be bad regardless.

    But they are not. One side occupies and oppresses, and the other side wants to end said occupation and oppression.

    The difference is when Palestinians are killed and oppressed, we barely see any of it in the mainstream media, but whenever Palestinians dare to fight back, the media paints the oppressor as a victim somehow.

    Israel literally refuses to give Palestinians any form of freedom. Why would anybody just agree to get killed with their hands tied?

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    Pray for Gaza

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    Really not even worth it to have a conversation about blame/morals/strategy given what Palestinians have been through.

    Smartest, most productive thing you can do is to voice your unequivocal support for Gaza and rally others

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    But they are not. One side occupies and oppresses, and the other side wants to end said occupation and oppression.

    The difference is when Palestinians are killed and oppressed, we barely see any of it in the mainstream media, but whenever Palestinians dare to fight back, the media paints the oppressor as a victim somehow.

    Israel literally refuses to give Palestinians any form of freedom. Why would anybody just agree to get killed with their hands tied?

    Sorry bro, going to a music festival over the Israeli/Palestinian border and raping & murdering women at a music festival didn’t stop the Israeli oppression and is the exact same evil behaviour that the IDF does to their neighbours.

    Palestinians weren’t made any more freer by Hamas’ actions in the last 3 days and it only helped to endanger more Palestinians lives and to further the interests of Hezbollah and the Iranians.

  • CKL TML 🌺
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    Maccaveli101

    I can see with my eyes that both sides are awful.

    Doesn’t have to be equally but they can so both be bad regardless.

    All the countries fighting back to get nazi germany out of their countries were awful! See how low iq you sound?

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    CKL TML

    All the countries fighting back to get nazi germany out of their countries were awful! See how low iq you sound?

    At this point, Hamas & the IDF are both acting like Nazis.

    F*** outta here, grown man with no empathy for life talking on a Kanye West forum advocating for death and suffering of both Israelis and Palestinians while the IDF hides behind their Iron Curtain and America and the Hamas bosses hide in their Qatari high rises and their masters in Qatar, Lebanon and Iran.

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    Maccaveli101

    At this point, Hamas & the IDF are both acting like Nazis.

    F*** outta here, grown man with no empathy for life talking on a Kanye West forum advocating for death and suffering of both Israelis and Palestinians while the IDF hides behind their Iron Curtain and America and the Hamas bosses hide in their Qatari high rises and their masters in Qatar, Lebanon and Iran.

    Palestinians just need to sit back and accept their fate huh

  • CKL TML 🌺
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    ‘Both are wrong’ people is the dumbest crowd out there

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    Maccaveli101

    I can see with my eyes that both sides are awful.

    Doesn’t have to be equally but they can so both be bad regardless.

    Not agreeing with anyone itt.

    But its a simple plain fact that very nation is bad in war to whatever degree.

    Not every German in Nazi Germany agreed with their overall power even some soldiers - even tho its one of the most prime examples of a f***ed up fighting power.

    Or all the innocent in Japan during the nukes just because of some hard headed ass commanders.

    And even in lesser extremes:

    There is overall no black and white

    There are always bad apples

    There are always extreme commands that people are forced to follow

    There is always a loser

    There is always damage

    There is no cleanliness in war no matter the fight & the why/justification

    There is no glory

    There is only fighting for yourself, or fighting just for your side

    War is not favorable nor glamorous

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    Maccaveli101

    At this point, Hamas & the IDF are both acting like Nazis.

    F*** outta here, grown man with no empathy for life talking on a Kanye West forum advocating for death and suffering of both Israelis and Palestinians while the IDF hides behind their Iron Curtain and America and the Hamas bosses hide in their Qatari high rises and their masters in Qatar, Lebanon and Iran.

    european resistance leaders were hiding in london while their men were murdering civilians fyi

  • Oct 9, 2023
    CKL TML

    Palestinians just need to sit back and accept their fate huh

    No.

    How are you struggling with this?

    They can fight back against oppression without resorting to what Hamas did this weekend.

    Raping and murdering women and children is unforgivable and that’s what you’re trying and failing to advocate for and no amount of “what about’s” are gonna make your argument work.

    I’d be in here saying the same thing if I saw the IDF move into Gaza or the West Bank and do what Hamas did. So f*** outta with your bullshit.

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    Water Giver

    Not agreeing with anyone itt.

    But its a simple plain fact that very nation is bad in war to whatever degree.

    Not every German in Nazi Germany agreed with their overall power even some soldiers - even tho its one of the most prime examples of a f***ed up fighting power.

    Or all the innocent in Japan during the nukes just because of some hard headed ass commanders.

    And even in lesser extremes:

    There is overall no black and white

    There are always bad apples

    There are always extreme commands that people are forced to follow

    There is always a loser

    There is always damage

    There is no cleanliness in war no matter the fight & the why/justification

    There is no glory

    There is only fighting for yourself, or fighting just for your side

    War is not favorable nor glamorous

    If you want to boil war to "black and white" type of logic - there are no heroes except those that are helping your cause

    I dare anyone to find a single nation or resistance in any type of war conflict that is 100% virtuous & clean from the top brass to the bottom cleaners

    War is simply Us Vs Them - its literally that simple

    I dont know how its hard for people to grasp, its why War isnt considered an overall great thing

    There are no heroes in war besides those that are fighting for your own personal perspective and/or wellbeing

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    Water Giver

    Not agreeing with anyone itt.

    But its a simple plain fact that very nation is bad in war to whatever degree.

    Not every German in Nazi Germany agreed with their overall power even some soldiers - even tho its one of the most prime examples of a f***ed up fighting power.

    Or all the innocent in Japan during the nukes just because of some hard headed ass commanders.

    And even in lesser extremes:

    There is overall no black and white

    There are always bad apples

    There are always extreme commands that people are forced to follow

    There is always a loser

    There is always damage

    There is no cleanliness in war no matter the fight & the why/justification

    There is no glory

    There is only fighting for yourself, or fighting just for your side

    War is not favorable nor glamorous

    The Russians were f***ing horrendous in Germany, bro.

    We don’t hear enough about it because of the nature of what the Nazis did but that s*** didn’t make the Soviets raping women and children valid.

    But let some people in this thread tell you Hamas aren’t pieces of s*** for what they did to civilians while crying about IDF atrocities against Palestinians.

  • CKL TML 🌺
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    Maccaveli101

    The Russians were f***ing horrendous in Germany, bro.

    We don’t hear enough about it because of the nature of what the Nazis did but that s*** didn’t make the Soviets raping women and children valid.

    But let some people in this thread tell you Hamas aren’t pieces of s*** for what they did to civilians while crying about IDF atrocities against Palestinians.

    Settlers aren’t civillians.

  • Oct 9, 2023
    Nessy

    european resistance leaders were hiding in london while their men were murdering civilians fyi

    You’re not revealing new information to me.

    My point was Hamas are doing this less for Palestinian freedom and more to further other Arab states agendas in the area.

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