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  • Nov 2, 2023
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    mvp

    yeah idk what to tell you, you're just wrong about that. pull up to a pro israel "rally" (lmao) and ask them if they're zionist, they'll say yes and they'll be proud of it

    those at a rally represent a fraction of the powers at be. i do understand your perspective, i hope you see how i’ve come to my perspective

  • Nov 2, 2023
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    silky

    those at a rally represent a fraction of the powers at be. i do understand your perspective, i hope you see how i’ve come to my perspective

    most anybody who supports israel identifies as a zionist. I been invested in this s*** over a decade and (unfortunately) have interacted with a lot of pro israel scumbags. they are proud zionists.

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    mvp

    most anybody who supports israel identifies as a zionist. I been invested in this s*** over a decade and (unfortunately) have interacted with a lot of pro israel scumbags. they are proud zionists.

    i can see that. on my end working in creative and financial circles, it’s almost taboo for them to admit to being zionist, but instead being pro having a homeland and pro their relationships with people in israel

    it’s a way of claiming minority treatment without coming off as aggressive

  • Nov 2, 2023
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    silky

    i can see that. on my end working in creative and financial circles, it’s almost taboo for them to admit to being zionist, but instead being pro having a homeland and pro their relationships with people in israel

    it’s a way of claiming minority treatment without coming off as aggressive

    If I may take a stab at it, it sounds like what you’re getting at is kind of the same talking points that Biden’s press secretary gets at, not saying “the biden administration is zionist” but rather “the biden administration actively flights against hate and antisemitism”.

    That passivity can be very infuriating, but I make it a point to critically pushback against that when I hear it. As someone with Jewish background, most young people aren’t even well versed enough to know what “Zionism” means, they’ve just been told to be pro-Israel their whole life. Also, birthright is viewed as Woodstock for Jews within the community, and the best s***vacation ever as you alluded to before

  • Nov 2, 2023
    JaeRell

    You in Lebanon?

    I was, in Sweden atm.... Whole fam over there tho

  • Nov 2, 2023
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    fiveprestos

    If I may take a stab at it, it sounds like what you’re getting at is kind of the same talking points that Biden’s press secretary gets at, not saying “the biden administration is zionist” but rather “the biden administration actively flights against hate and antisemitism”.

    That passivity can be very infuriating, but I make it a point to critically pushback against that when I hear it. As someone with Jewish background, most young people aren’t even well versed enough to know what “Zionism” means, they’ve just been told to be pro-Israel their whole life. Also, birthright is viewed as Woodstock for Jews within the community, and the best s***vacation ever as you alluded to before

    you know ur the realist, i’ve watched how you spoken about what’s going on doxxed and all i can say is it takes a lot of courage to do what you have been doing bro

  • Nov 2, 2023
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    These circular arguments about defining and separating the words Jewish/Israeli/Zionist (any in many ways Gazan/Palestinian/Hamas) is moot.

    I understand that each has its own definition but there has been a propoganda war to blur those definitions long before this current 2023 ‘war.’

    I mean the evidence is out there, there’s f***ing trucks with huge screens doxxing student who merely say “free palestine” calling them anti-semites for f***s sake.

    Former Israeli officials are own record admitting that it is their policy to purposely blur those definitions to suit their needs they admit to invoking the Holocaust in Europe and anti-semitism in the US to push policy and their zionist agenda.

    At the end of the day f*** hamas and f*** the zionist, by definition, and anyone okay with innocent people dying over this bullshit.

  • Nov 2, 2023
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    NotoriousDonDraper
    https://twitter.com/vp/status/1719833418869981388

    You couldn’t make this up even if you tried

    i’m of 2 minds on this.

    i’m seeing a lot of folks on twitter criticize this video but they the same ones that were @‘ing biden the other week and criticizing him for not shining a light on this issue. i think it’s commendable that the white house is at least trying to address the rise in islamophobia and anti-palestinian hate crimes. neither trump or obama gave af about doing that in israel’s prior bombing campaigns.

    but at the same time, the white house aided in the genocide we’re currently in, with biden just last week calling into question whether or not the palestinians were lying about their death toll (???). as such i can see why people think this initiative and video is just the wh trying to save their sinking approval rating and poll numbers. it’s cynical but there’s likely an element of truth to it

  • Nov 2, 2023
    GoldLink

    like it's insane the s*** Israel is doing rn but niggas would rather protect their 10 mil mansion than say a damn thing, it's pathetic im sorry but it is

    americans have a deep history of putting profit over people

  • Nov 2, 2023
    GoldLink

    It's actually so pathetic how apolitical art has become, I'm not surprised by the actors but the musicians who are heavily in the punk rock, hip hop and jazz scenes that have kept silent on this is revealingly disturbing. Even science itself has become so whack. People from all industries used to stand up for s***, and now were stuck with these spineless f***-ups smh

    youtu.be/eJ3RzGoQC4s?si=G9BYWm3A9_8jzHeE

    you might enjoy this adam curtis doc

  • Nov 2, 2023
    Himothee

    i’m of 2 minds on this.

    i’m seeing a lot of folks on twitter criticize this video but they the same ones that were @‘ing biden the other week and criticizing him for not shining a light on this issue. i think it’s commendable that the white house is at least trying to address the rise in islamophobia and anti-palestinian hate crimes. neither trump or obama gave af about doing that in israel’s prior bombing campaigns.

    but at the same time, the white house aided in the genocide we’re currently in, with biden just last week calling into question whether or not the palestinians were lying about their death toll (???). as such i can see why people think this initiative and video is just the wh trying to save their sinking approval rating and poll numbers. it’s cynical but there’s likely an element of truth to it

    the US government is absolutely the origin of the "new islamophobia," considering it spent decades backing fundamentalists to combat secular third-way governments, then building even more decades of hateful rhetoric as they exacted two decades of imperialism against Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, etc.

    and these measures are probably a facade for additional police funding. so far its only be lip service, but i'm sure it's not going to be any more productive/progressive than that

  • Nov 2, 2023
    silky

    you know ur the realist, i’ve watched how you spoken about what’s going on doxxed and all i can say is it takes a lot of courage to do what you have been doing bro

    Thank you. In a more just and less psychopathic world it would be doing the bare minimum.

  • Nov 2, 2023
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    deleteduser2863

    How do people know he died

    If he's really out there it's only a matter of time

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  • BGFX
    https://twitter.com/ruhi_hi/status/1719880746729447470

    Unimaginable

  • Nov 2, 2023
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    Aight

    If he's really out there it's only a matter of time

    https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1720147135985840545

    What are the tanks even doing in these clips

  • Nov 2, 2023
    mishmash

    What are the tanks even doing in these clips

    they were having a rave outside of them

  • Nov 2, 2023
    mishmash

    What are the tanks even doing in these clips

    Dude came up out of a tunnel. They got blindsided.

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    Damn just welled up and cried for 10 seconds. First time I’ve cried at the news

  • Nov 2, 2023
    Lou
    https://twitter.com/atyanibaker/status/1720115632711041482

    God damn

  • NotoriousDonDraper
    https://twitter.com/vp/status/1719833418869981388

    You couldn’t make this up even if you tried

    I feel like a crazy person living in a fish bowl watching these morons s*** on me and tell me it’s raining. I didn’t even click play.

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