Apr 20, 2023Ā·5 replies
shaleiroseBro is really acting like this performance hasnāt been getting ripped to shreds literally everywhere for the past 4 days
I havenāt heard a single person talk down on franks performance in my day to day life
Your social media feed isnāt the majority and the sooner yāall realize that the better
Apr 20, 2023
MiniVan2 hour episode frank will be speaking on why you should buy a bidet over a rough piano instrumental
wabi sabi :)
Apr 20, 2023Ā·4 repliesMight sound harsh, but sometimes cold/hard truth is the best medicine
Weāve all seen diehard and delusional fans grasping for anyāeveryāexcuse to support Frank. It was difficult for me, too, but I reached the conclusion he pulled Def Jam pt. II by meeting contractual obligations to swindle Coachella, and more importantly fans, to the tune of $5,000,000: half-ass his āfirstā show after throwing diva tantrums, then the medical excuse cop out to avoid breach of contract and possibly collect on insurance for weekend 2āstrange the cancel decision didnāt arrive til Wednesday.
His willingness to collect on ridiculous prices for merch commemorating an ever-aging (albeit legendary) body of work is shameless. If only he approached his loyal fandom with new art when he gets hungrier for moneyā¦
This dude has parlayed his considerable musical gifts into a career as a jeweler and, apparently, soon a director for A24 (āsee you soonā š¤”). Without the money he was paid, by fans, the worlds of fine jewelry and Hollywood wouldnāt have given a ratās ass. We are constantly chided, āhe doesnāt owe fans anything.ā If so, he should at least respect the fans enough to quit cashing in on re-releasing 6+ year old material, tired/mid merch, and fly-by-night āperformancesā.
I think itās fair to say that the rich and famous end up surrounded by enablers and yes-men who contribute to an environment of delusion, paranoia, and oftentimes, identity crisis. Justin Bieber might have enjoyed the show, but, my instinct couldnāt help consider that he so publicly declared support for a universally recognized catastrophe to ingratiate himself to Frank (I know Iām gonna catch s*** for this, but I really couldnāt help but think it).
Whilst some people think being permissive of Frankās greed and manipulation in the name of grief is doing him a favor, I think itās the exact opposite. Sometimes people need to be held up to a mirror to see problems afflicting them, and to hopefully better themselves.
The way I see it, a talented musician is wealth-obsessed and trying to make bandaids out of dollar bills; this at the expense of the most consistent $ source heās ever known: music fans. His refusal to be real with his core audience is transparent and appalling. Itās even offensive, because he underestimates one of the most patient and understanding fandoms Iāve ever seenāhis own.
In his writing and music, Iāve witnessed a sensitive and compassionate soul, and that soul is not consistent with this greed and callous disregard of other human beingsā¦I just want to see him act with integrity, with or without music.
PS shout out to Morgan, the only real ābeauty in chaosā was that show introducing us to a great personality and emerging artist!
Apr 20, 2023MiniVan2 hour episode frank will be speaking on why you should buy a bidet over a rough piano instrumental
- Apr 20, 2023Ā·1 replyFaith
Might sound harsh, but sometimes cold/hard truth is the best medicine
Weāve all seen diehard and delusional fans grasping for anyāeveryāexcuse to support Frank. It was difficult for me, too, but I reached the conclusion he pulled Def Jam pt. II by meeting contractual obligations to swindle Coachella, and more importantly fans, to the tune of $5,000,000: half-ass his āfirstā show after throwing diva tantrums, then the medical excuse cop out to avoid breach of contract and possibly collect on insurance for weekend 2āstrange the cancel decision didnāt arrive til Wednesday.
His willingness to collect on ridiculous prices for merch commemorating an ever-aging (albeit legendary) body of work is shameless. If only he approached his loyal fandom with new art when he gets hungrier for moneyā¦
This dude has parlayed his considerable musical gifts into a career as a jeweler and, apparently, soon a director for A24 (āsee you soonā š¤”). Without the money he was paid, by fans, the worlds of fine jewelry and Hollywood wouldnāt have given a ratās ass. We are constantly chided, āhe doesnāt owe fans anything.ā If so, he should at least respect the fans enough to quit cashing in on re-releasing 6+ year old material, tired/mid merch, and fly-by-night āperformancesā.
I think itās fair to say that the rich and famous end up surrounded by enablers and yes-men who contribute to an environment of delusion, paranoia, and oftentimes, identity crisis. Justin Bieber might have enjoyed the show, but, my instinct couldnāt help consider that he so publicly declared support for a universally recognized catastrophe to ingratiate himself to Frank (I know Iām gonna catch s*** for this, but I really couldnāt help but think it).
Whilst some people think being permissive of Frankās greed and manipulation in the name of grief is doing him a favor, I think itās the exact opposite. Sometimes people need to be held up to a mirror to see problems afflicting them, and to hopefully better themselves.
The way I see it, a talented musician is wealth-obsessed and trying to make bandaids out of dollar bills; this at the expense of the most consistent $ source heās ever known: music fans. His refusal to be real with his core audience is transparent and appalling. Itās even offensive, because he underestimates one of the most patient and understanding fandoms Iāve ever seenāhis own.
In his writing and music, Iāve witnessed a sensitive and compassionate soul, and that soul is not consistent with this greed and callous disregard of other human beingsā¦I just want to see him act with integrity, with or without music.
PS shout out to Morgan, the only real ābeauty in chaosā was that show introducing us to a great personality and emerging artist!
Apr 20, 2023If anyone ever doubts the possiblity of a perpetual motion machine, just show them this thread.
- Apr 20, 2023Ā·1 replyOldAssChampion
I havenāt heard a single person talk down on franks performance in my day to day life
Your social media feed isnāt the majority and the sooner yāall realize that the better
Iāve actually had several people in real life tell me about how bad his performance was, even this one former co-worker of mine who I havenāt spoken to in months texted me about it
- Apr 20, 2023Ā·1 replyOldAssChampion
Youāre speaking in circles now, internet echo chambers have never represented the majority. If we wanna get technical, the literal majority probably has no clue Frank performed.
Does majority of your IG feed or twitter TL hate it? Maybe, your algorithm is catered to you, but letās stop pretending like the actual majority gives a s*** as much as yāall
Yes Iām sure GoldenVoice never wants him back at Coachella again and Iām sure Frank dropped out of the second weekend because that first performance was so loved by everyone
- Apr 20, 2023
Multiple reports have said his relationship with Coachella is completely soured from here on out, that must mean most people loved his performance
- Apr 20, 2023Ā·1 replyshaleirose
Iāve actually had several people in real life tell me about how bad his performance was, even this one former co-worker of mine who I havenāt spoken to in months texted me about it
And thatās great, but you donāt see the desperation in the fact you keep needing other opinions to validate yours?
Iāve had people in my day to day say they love it, but anecdotal evidence means nothing to me
- Apr 20, 2023shaleirose
Yes Iām sure GoldenVoice never wants him back at Coachella again and Iām sure Frank dropped out of the second weekend because that first performance was so loved by everyone
Who knows why he dropped out, Im personally not gonnna pretend like I know why, but Iām sure you will for the both of us
- Apr 20, 2023Ā·1 replyOldAssChampion
And thatās great, but you donāt see the desperation in the fact you keep needing other opinions to validate yours?
Iāve had people in my day to day say they love it, but anecdotal evidence means nothing to me
Iām not using their opinion to validate anything, Iām simply showing you that itās pretty obvious that the majority of people did not like it.
If you liked it, COOL, thatās great. But youāve been in here for the past 4 days tryna convince those who didnāt like it that itās actually a good performance because you personally liked it. Get over it already
- Apr 20, 2023
Is GoldenVoice in the room with us right now?
- Apr 20, 2023
I love when it gets far enough out from a performance or event that the only arguments are insanely specific and niche
- Apr 20, 2023Ā·1 reply
Itās like Honestly, Nevermind.
Personally I love that album and itās one of my favorite Drake projects.
But itās obvious that the majority of Drake fans did not like that project whatsoever.
That doesnāt change my opinion of the album at all, but Iād be a fool to try and argue that the majority of fans liked it, or act like thereās no way to tell what the general consensus on it was
- Apr 20, 2023Ā·1 replyshaleirose
Iām not using their opinion to validate anything, Iām simply showing you that itās pretty obvious that the majority of people did not like it.
If you liked it, COOL, thatās great. But youāve been in here for the past 4 days tryna convince those who didnāt like it that itās actually a good performance because you personally liked it. Get over it already
Yes you are, first āmajority of peopleā were your validation, when I shot that down you switched to your friends, if you didnāt like it thatās fine, but letās not speak for everyone
- Apr 20, 2023Ā·1 replyOldAssChampion
Yes you are, first āmajority of peopleā were your validation, when I shot that down you switched to your friends, if you didnāt like it thatās fine, but letās not speak for everyone
Bro I was ITT saying the performance was bad literally as it was happening, Iām not using anyoneās opinion to validate mine
I only brought up my friends opinionsā because YOU did
- Apr 20, 2023Ā·1 replyshaleirose
Itās like Honestly, Nevermind.
Personally I love that album and itās one of my favorite Drake projects.
But itās obvious that the majority of Drake fans did not like that project whatsoever.
That doesnāt change my opinion of the album at all, but Iād be a fool to try and argue that the majority of fans liked it, or act like thereās no way to tell what the general consensus on it was
I have no clue what majority of people thought about HN, but I notice the trend of you thinking you do
I liked the album and that was enough for me
- Apr 20, 2023Ā·1 replyshaleirose
Bro I was ITT saying the performance was bad literally as it was happening, Iām not using anyoneās opinion to validate mine
I only brought up my friends opinionsā because YOU did
And nobody is arguing against how you feel? But you donāt know how the majority feel and thatās okay, yāall wanna be tapped in so bad
- Apr 20, 2023Ā·1 replyOldAssChampion
I have no clue what majority of people thought about HN, but I notice the trend of you thinking you do
I liked the album and that was enough for me
Do you live under a rock or something. You canāt tell what the general consensus is on an album or movie or show or anything like that?
- Apr 20, 2023Ā·1 replyOldAssChampion
And nobody is arguing against how you feel? But you donāt know how the majority feel and thatās okay, yāall wanna be tapped in so bad
I do know how the majority feel because itās pretty damn obvious to anyone with more than two brain cells
- Apr 20, 2023Ā·1 replyshaleirose
Do you live under a rock or something. You canāt tell what the general consensus is on an album or movie or show or anything like that?
I just live in reality, I can tell you how I feel, how anyone else feels should be taken up with them
- Apr 20, 2023yesac
LMAO
- Apr 20, 2023Ā·1 replyOldAssChampion
I just live in reality, I can tell you how I feel, how anyone else feels should be taken up with them
Okay so why are you even entertaining this discussion if you yourself donāt personally care how other people feel about things
Apr 20, 2023Ā·1 replyFaithMight sound harsh, but sometimes cold/hard truth is the best medicine
Weāve all seen diehard and delusional fans grasping for anyāeveryāexcuse to support Frank. It was difficult for me, too, but I reached the conclusion he pulled Def Jam pt. II by meeting contractual obligations to swindle Coachella, and more importantly fans, to the tune of $5,000,000: half-ass his āfirstā show after throwing diva tantrums, then the medical excuse cop out to avoid breach of contract and possibly collect on insurance for weekend 2āstrange the cancel decision didnāt arrive til Wednesday.
His willingness to collect on ridiculous prices for merch commemorating an ever-aging (albeit legendary) body of work is shameless. If only he approached his loyal fandom with new art when he gets hungrier for moneyā¦
This dude has parlayed his considerable musical gifts into a career as a jeweler and, apparently, soon a director for A24 (āsee you soonā š¤”). Without the money he was paid, by fans, the worlds of fine jewelry and Hollywood wouldnāt have given a ratās ass. We are constantly chided, āhe doesnāt owe fans anything.ā If so, he should at least respect the fans enough to quit cashing in on re-releasing 6+ year old material, tired/mid merch, and fly-by-night āperformancesā.
I think itās fair to say that the rich and famous end up surrounded by enablers and yes-men who contribute to an environment of delusion, paranoia, and oftentimes, identity crisis. Justin Bieber might have enjoyed the show, but, my instinct couldnāt help consider that he so publicly declared support for a universally recognized catastrophe to ingratiate himself to Frank (I know Iām gonna catch s*** for this, but I really couldnāt help but think it).
Whilst some people think being permissive of Frankās greed and manipulation in the name of grief is doing him a favor, I think itās the exact opposite. Sometimes people need to be held up to a mirror to see problems afflicting them, and to hopefully better themselves.
The way I see it, a talented musician is wealth-obsessed and trying to make bandaids out of dollar bills; this at the expense of the most consistent $ source heās ever known: music fans. His refusal to be real with his core audience is transparent and appalling. Itās even offensive, because he underestimates one of the most patient and understanding fandoms Iāve ever seenāhis own.
In his writing and music, Iāve witnessed a sensitive and compassionate soul, and that soul is not consistent with this greed and callous disregard of other human beingsā¦I just want to see him act with integrity, with or without music.
PS shout out to Morgan, the only real ābeauty in chaosā was that show introducing us to a great personality and emerging artist!
I don't know what would be worse...that you double posted this here and on the Frank Ocean subreddit or that you stole this off the subreddit and posted it here as your own