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    well considering you didnt post any sort of source to your link its hard exactly to adjudicate whether your source is true, but let's Google it

    first page we find:

    the same website providing the 60-80% number and a 30% number

    the website, chicagojewishnews, says in one link (without itself citing anything) that "It is estimated that between 60 and 80 percent of all lawyers in the United States are Jewish"

    chicagojewishnews.com/what-percentage-of-us-lawyers-are-jewish

    the other link from the same website published in the same month (Feb. 2022) says

    "In the United States, it is estimated that around 33 percent of attorneys are Jewish. This figure is based on data from the American Jewish Population Project, which surveyed Jewish attorneys in 2012. The percentage of Jewish attorneys in the U.S. has likely increased since then, as the overall Jewish population in the country has grown," which actually gives a citation

    chicagojewishnews.com/what-percentage-of-attorneys-are-jewish

    this is the only place I see the "60-80%" figure, totally itself unattributable

    however, to my point that this might be true in NYC, we find a law review article saying that "in 1960" Jews were 60% of the New York City bar (page 10)

    digitalcommons.tourolaw.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3230&context=lawreview

    given that many Black people live in New York City and have encounters with the criminal justice system (especially, for the particular interests of this forum, those who would form the nucleus of the community out of which hip-hop was born), certainly I think that your contention that Black people's relationship with Jews is highly influenced by the disproportionate presence of Jewish people in the legal system in certain urban centers where many Jews and Blacks live is true

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    I think this perspective is giving ye too much credit. His worldview is incoherent. He's not using antisemitism as a mean to an end, it's just one f***ed up jigsaw piece in the puzzle of his current mindstate.

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    actual discussion always gets derailed by stats then suddenly no one responds to my reasonable take which is that black people feel kept out of positions of power so when a minority even smaller populated than you in the USA is in all these positions of power it creates conflict.

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    internet buddy

    @sizzabella

    https://ktt2.com/ye-isnt-being-antisemitic-32535923

    We're seeing antisemitic leak into our own sxn. That's what this talking always leads to especially from someone with Kanye's platform. I wrote a response to this thread but it got locked. I'll still post it @StanM

    He called out his own doctor and doesn't trust his diagnosis because he's "a Jewish doctor" not because he's a bad doctor or anything. That's literally the definition of antisemitism. He no different than the lawyer he called out who mentioned he had to bring a black lawyer because they were told to, assuming that story is even true

    Ye isn't just antisemitic he's borderline anti-black when it doesn't benefit him

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    Y’all are kind of making @GeraldJohanssen s point though. Like nobody had an issue when a thousand rappers said they got a Jewish lawyer so they’ll beat the case but now folks are fact checking a hastily written half a sentence statistic.

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    DZE

    Y’all are kind of making @GeraldJohanssen s point though. Like nobody had an issue when a thousand rappers said they got a Jewish lawyer so they’ll beat the case but now folks are fact checking a hastily written half a sentence statistic.

    "A thousand rappers said they had a Jewish lawyer" you got an actual source for that or is that another made up statistic?

  • Oct 31, 2022
    DZE

    Y’all are kind of making @GeraldJohanssen s point though. Like nobody had an issue when a thousand rappers said they got a Jewish lawyer so they’ll beat the case but now folks are fact checking a hastily written half a sentence statistic.

    There are more Jewish judges and lawyers than black judges and lawyers?

    Is a simpler question

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    Propaganda is not to convince anyone, it’s a recruitment tool, it gathers and retains the people who understand the true message and are willing to repeat it. It doesn’t really matter to a committed white nationalist how many times you sit down and debunk the ridiculous white nationalist lie that “the world is being taken over by jews” because when they say that they aren’t REALLY saying that it’s true, what they are saying is: they want to persecute jewish people. And all of the audience is running around in circles saying “come on our talk show and tell us about your whacky views, bring these ideas to the free marketplace of ideas so that we may debunk them.” While some of their audience is sitting there going “ohhh I get it” and now you have more and more people echoing the things that are being said in the ways its being said in order to recruit more members. Hell we have a large amount of no avis showing up recently in other threads doing just that.

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    i mean for one thing this is why i think that racial preferences and set-asides for any group other than american descendents of slaves is objectively negative for that group of people

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    The Darkest Angel

    "A thousand rappers said they had a Jewish lawyer" you got an actual source for that or is that another made up statistic?

    I’ll take this as willfully obtuse sarcasm but still post this in response:
    complex.com/music/2013/08/rap-jewish-lawyers-video-lyrics

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    You are a F***ing idiot if you get all of your information from the first result on google, a result you didn’t even open up and read. And the fact that you keep admitting that is embarrassing. You have to be the most gullible person in the world, I can only wonder how many conspiracies you fall victim to every year.

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    Delete this now

    You are a F***ing idiot if you get all of your information from the first result on google, a result you didn’t even open up and read. And the fact that you keep admitting that is embarrassing. You have to be the most gullible person in the world, I can only wonder how many conspiracies you fall victim to every year.

    For every @gabapentin type reasonable response there’s 1000 rabid dog ass fellas like this guy lmaoo

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    DZE

    For every @gabapentin type reasonable response there’s 1000 rabid dog ass fellas like this guy lmaoo

    For every b****ass there’s a scumbag swallowing his nuts underneath him. Welcome to online forums jackass

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    DZE

    For every @gabapentin type reasonable response there’s 1000 rabid dog ass fellas like this guy lmaoo

    Swaygan is a very hateful human being even when people are trying to have a basic discussion

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    DZE

    For every @gabapentin type reasonable response there’s 1000 rabid dog ass fellas like this guy lmaoo

    been that way for a minute hedi slimane

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    Delete this now

    For every b****ass there’s a scumbag swallowing his nuts underneath him. Welcome to online forums jackass

    Down girl adults are speaking

  • Oct 31, 2022
    gabapentin

    been that way for a minute hedi slimane

    All love to you for being able to discuss without hate or condescension like that

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    HaroldsChicken

    actual discussion always gets derailed by stats then suddenly no one responds to my reasonable take which is that black people feel kept out of positions of power so when a minority even smaller populated than you in the USA is in all these positions of power it creates conflict.

    That is true but Kanye is not saying that and is moving wild

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