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  • Jun 23, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    I hope spider man 2side quest aren’t this bad

    Given the fact that the game uses mostly the same map, I’m hoping that would lead to an improvement on side content.

    It was probably the single biggest criticism leveled on the first.

  • Jun 23, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    How far are you lol I am wondering what slump of the game you are in ?

    I was just playing, but I think I'm like 40-45% in. Post second time skip, just about to get the boat from Clive's uncle, I believe.

  • Jun 23, 2023
    wes

    Nah, I'm just joking. I do agree with pretty much everything you said. For the side content and stuff like that, I'm looking at this game as more of an action game rather than a typical JRPG, so it bothers me much less.

    Kinda the same with exploration, but I can't really put into words why I have more of a problem with that. I actually even prefer something like the old Trails games with the isometric view and really simple "hallway" maps to something like this. I guess this definitely has more exploration, but there's just something missing for me.

    It probably has to do with the environments being so detailed that you want to explore but you know that nah you can’t jump over the log and no you can cross that ankle length stream cus there are invisible walls left and right

    Vs hallway style it is what it is. Just keep moving forward

    I still find myself trying to jump over stuff or trying to go somewhere I probably won’t be able to go

  • Jun 23, 2023
    CrimsonArk

    Apparently you should just do side quests that feature a + mark.

    Those are the substantial ones.

  • Jun 23, 2023
    CrimsonArk
    https://twitter.com/genepark/status/1672355007079890944

    Not even wrong

    Which is actually kind of crazy given the budget difference.

    Alright, let's not say Yakuza's storytelling is some incredibly high bar to reach when each game has some stupid bullshit like rubber bullets, twin brother CIA agent, double accidental locker-baby swap, or a character named Mirror Face who can magically look like anyone (all of which are used as MAJOR plot points/twists.

    Also, high budget =/= quality of storytelling or quest structure.

  • Jun 23, 2023

    Dragon Age: Inquisition will forever be the non-MMO MMO side quest champ OAT though.

  • Jun 23, 2023
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    wes

    I was just playing, but I think I'm like 40-45% in. Post second time skip, just about to get the boat from Clive's uncle, I believe.

    oh s*** you are farther than me by some . How are you guys easily seeing percentage?

  • Jun 23, 2023
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    redtruth

    For me its probably the lack of party interactions. Idk if you noticed but outside the actual story its as if Cid/Jill don't actually exists.

    If you take a side quest the game acts like they are not with you, they don't comment on what just unfolded on the side quest, they literally just act as lifeless AI to provide more damage.

    Whats even worse actually is that the party members barely interact with the other party members, they really only have a relationship with Clive.

    I feel like Jills character has been handled especially poorly. In the intro she seems extremely close to Torgal but when we are reunited she doesn't even acknowledge his existence. I know the story has a focus on Clive but I feel like they forgot they have other characters they need to develop in the game too. Which again, is funny because they are quite good at this in XIV

    EDIT: Also agree with you that I have had to kind of approach this game as if its not a JRPG, kinda hard to do that sometimes though considering its a Final Fantasy game

    Yeah, I was actually going to post at some point yesterday or today that I wished there was some form of party banter. Even just a "nice job character name!" or something to that effect.

    I know Cid chimes in a couple times, but it's all part of the story, never when you're out doing side quests. Jill doesn't say a peep, and like you said, she's (and other optional members) pretty much just a body to deal extra damage.

    I'm still very much enjoying the game, but there are definitely a handful of questionable decisions that were made.

  • Jun 23, 2023
    CrimsonArk

    Given the fact that the game uses mostly the same map, I’m hoping that would lead to an improvement on side content.

    It was probably the single biggest criticism leveled on the first.

    lol when people say their side quest is good I don't trust them when they don't realize not all side content should be the same mechanisms as the main quest. It shouldn't just be go to this location beat someone up and sometimes adding in other fun stuff to do in the game all helps the experience

  • Jun 23, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    oh s*** you are farther than me by some . How are you guys easily seeing percentage?

    My bad

    If you close the game from the PS5 home menu and hover over it, it'll show a story % progress, along with hours played. Looks like I'm at 44%.

  • Jun 23, 2023
    wes

    My bad

    If you close the game from the PS5 home menu and hover over it, it'll show a story % progress, along with hours played. Looks like I'm at 44%.

    nah you are good on spoilers don't worry about that. I more meant oh s*** because that means I am about to hit mid . Story no part of this story is majorly gripping to me I just enjoy the anime ass s***. When this game takes itself seriously its very hit or miss for me.

    Oh I am 30%

  • Jun 23, 2023

    I love Skill Up for being a real one cause most people can't say what he said and not get cooked. I been saying it lol

  • Jun 23, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    There are some homework or grind feeling parts between the epic moments. Lacking exploration , side quest that hit and always taking itself so serious makes it flow odd so far at least . I am about 10 hours on

    Like I’m constantly like why did they do this on many decisions where they had a lay up .

    It should have been an open zone game. Like 4-5 little open worlds and some hubs which encourage exploration etc.

    It’s basically a hack and slash

  • Jun 23, 2023
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    PapiBreezy

    It should have been an open zone game. Like 4-5 little open worlds and some hubs which encourage exploration etc.

    It’s basically a hack and slash

    Its a fire hack and slash though as someone who normally doesn't get into hack and slash. For all the effort that went into the story and world the execution is just missing in a way I didn't expect

  • Jun 23, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    Its a fire hack and slash though as someone who normally doesn't get into hack and slash. For all the effort that went into the story and world the execution is just missing in a way I didn't expect

    I agree.

    The combat is great and the story seems good. I just think the parts that makes RPG’s memorable isn’t here.

    It’s a very linear game, shouldn’t even be called a RPG.

  • Jun 23, 2023
    PapiBreezy

    I agree.

    The combat is great and the story seems good. I just think the parts that makes RPG’s memorable isn’t here.

    It’s a very linear game, shouldn’t even be called a RPG.

    the towns having a day night cycle with ai behavior that made them feel more alive and react slightly more to the player would go a long way. The worse part is I am someone who likes to try all side content like I cant bring myself to just skip it all so doing some of this s*** lol

  • Nayuta 🧡
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    Sidequests are very mid

  • Jun 23, 2023
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    Are they just determined to not show Clive showing the full range of human emotions?

  • Jun 23, 2023
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    wes

    Yeah, I was actually going to post at some point yesterday or today that I wished there was some form of party banter. Even just a "nice job character name!" or something to that effect.

    I know Cid chimes in a couple times, but it's all part of the story, never when you're out doing side quests. Jill doesn't say a peep, and like you said, she's (and other optional members) pretty much just a body to deal extra damage.

    I'm still very much enjoying the game, but there are definitely a handful of questionable decisions that were made.

    Feels like a lot of these decisions were made to appeal to people who don't like RPGs ngl

  • Jun 23, 2023

    just did the fake friends side quest. I hate the completionism in me lmfao I do but I got to chip away at all these s***s

  • Jun 23, 2023
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    Nayuta

    Sidequests are very mid

    Skip them. I would only do side quests with a '+' symbol (you will know when you see it) since these quests unlock useful features

  • Jun 23, 2023
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    redtruth

    Skip them. I would only do side quests with a '+' symbol (you will know when you see it) since these quests unlock useful features

    I AM NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO SKIP SIDE QUEST MAYBE ONE OF THEM IS WORTHWHILE

  • Jun 23, 2023
    redtruth

    Feels like a lot of these decisions were made to appeal to people who don't like RPGs ngl

    They did say they wanted it to appeal to a wider audience, so yeah, makes sense.

    Also, awful taste by those dorks

  • Jun 23, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    I AM NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO SKIP SIDE QUEST MAYBE ONE OF THEM IS WORTHWHILE

    I'm a completionist but I have done 18 side quests and only 2 of them were good, I'm not doing them bro

  • Jun 23, 2023
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    clive doesn't smile bro