did you not see me call him a petty criminal?

Try and expand your pea brain and stop thinking like a caveman where u think execution is the answer to the slightest provocation

The point me and others are making here is about a larger cultural rot/system not about anyone person

You understand this is the same s*** that leads to a murder of an ahmad aubery or a trayvon martin? You cant have it both ways my guy

In other civilized countries regular ass people dont have the ability to instantly become judge, jury and executioner without that trigger of their life being in explicit danger being reached

my guy, cut the bullshit out

this is not a larger problem, this is a clear cut example of the castle doctrine

do you know what that is?

you have the right to protect your family and your property, what should the father have done? please explain since I’m just an idiot according to you

let me know what to do to protect my daughter in this situation from an unhinged individual breaking down my door, appreciate you

A castle doctrine, also known as a castle law or a defense of habitation law, is a legal doctrine that designates a person's abode or any legally occupied place (for example, a vehicle or home) as a place in which that person has protections and immunities permitting one, in certain circumstances, to use force (up to and including deadly force) to defend oneself against an intruder, free from legal prosecution for the consequences of the force used.

Learn the law before calling someone a pea brain.

Bro I’m so lost

Buddy is freaking out tryna take the door down at his ex girlfriend’s house, possibly on d****, could be armed

I can’t condemn anybody for tryna protect their daughter in a world where so many women get killed by their abusers, because I can’t even imagine what I would do

this is a cultural problem.

Americans see no problem as being judge, jury and executioner, as Brad Pitt so eloquently put it.

it is an innate bias, we have become accustomed to always being around guns that we have no problem killing.

was he right to try to break into his house?
f*** no

did the father have a right to kill this man?
according to the US, yes.

should someone have been killed?
nah.

all in all both are in the wrong.

Idk calling the police?

The kid was clearly unarmed and thinking extremely stupidly

Also it seems they knew him as well since he was an ex.

There was no explicit intent of serious physical harm.

right man wtf

the problem I see is a lot of women are missing and dead in this country

but god forbid you protect your daughter from her psychotic ex boyfriend that is actively breaking down your front door in front of a ring camera

actions have consequences, don’t ever mess with a man’s daughter, he was well within his right to use deadly force, the grand jury didn’t even choose to indict him because the exes actions were just that egregious

I can’t believe this isn’t common sense man, it’s a shame that I even have to point all of this out

nobody is saying he wont protect his daughter

were just saying it doesnt have to come down to a death.

HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE POLICE TO RESPOND TO A SITUATION?

man use your brain for a second, so what happens when this dude is in your house, possibly under the influence, charging after your daughter?!

stop pretending to be holier than thou

man, and i love aaliyah's music.

a dumbass had to be a fan of her.

ashamed to be a fan of anything you enjoy, you’re basically implying that it’s cool for her ex to break down the door and possibly harm his daughter

f***ing idiot

this is the situation y’all wanted to happen

"Calling the police"

How long will the police take lol

"Clearly unarmed"

You're saying this cause you saw the video not from the perspective of being behind the door.

"There was no explicit intent of serious physical harm"

How would they know that, he's an EX tryna knock down the door, not like he was there for a friendly chat lol

I don’t have a daughter, so I don’t how I’d act. But I do know that I and 99% of people’s brain would be in fight or flight mode, including the people performing itt

especially in a situation where we can clearly see this man acting unhinged and violent

i’ll leave it at that

saw sby say “The fam prob knew him bc he’s an ex” like thats a point. Like abusive people don’t hide who they are, or that sometimes crazy doesn’t come out until later.

it’s all so naive

Pov of the intruder

They’re acting like he showed up in a sweater asking if he could just talk to her

some of the dumbest s*** I’ve ever read on the internet

bro said petty criminal

Thread is a clash bw Americans and non-americans perspective

man was willing to risk his life over gettin in that house n dawg thinks bro was just gon steal some gum off the counter

nobody has answered what the father should have done, i genuinely want to understand what they would have done in Canada or some s***ty country that doesn’t allow you to protect your family from imminent harm

it was legal to f*** kids in ye olden days i'd rather not appeal to it as the final authority

niggas really debating this

man f*** all that. protect daughter at all costs