Very Based

1y

Just learned today that 18 of Ozu's films are lost. Did you know that? @RASIE

Reminds me of the famous lost works of Mozart (Trumpet Conerto), Bach (St. Mark's Passion, etc.). And only 25 percent of Aristotle's work's survived (which is crazy considering his remaining work basically reshaped Western Civilization after the Muslims rediscovered it and gave it to Europe.)

Crazy considering Ozu is much more recent, though. I think a couple of Murnau's films have been lost, too @Elric. And all of Mizoguchi's pre wartime films. Probably a ton of other filmmakers as well

Gonna do some deep dives on this today.

Elric

1y

Has she seen PDL

RASIE

1y

Yeah its sad as hell.

Hell we got digital films from the past 30 years that are lost

woof

1y

nope not yet, I think shed love it though

Very Based

1y

Just learned today that 18 of Ozu's films are lost. Did you know that? @RASIE

Reminds me of the famous lost works of Mozart (Trumpet Conerto), Bach (St. Mark's Passion, etc.). And only 25 percent of Aristotle's work's survived (which is crazy considering his remaining work basically reshaped Western Civilization after the Muslims rediscovered it and gave it to Europe.)

Crazy considering Ozu is much more recent, though. I think a couple of Murnau's films have been lost, too @Elric. And all of Mizoguchi's pre wartime films. Probably a ton of other filmmakers as well

Gonna do some deep dives on this today.

rvi

1y

RIP all the lost art through history

drjdeponytail

1y

I think it’s something like 70% percent of movies made prior to 1930 are lost.

Koala

1y

@drjdeponytail @Jerry_Seinfeld @twinkletoez

Elric

1y

Poor old Ozu and Mizoguchi were around for so long their work suffered from both situations

Pretty well every silent film goat has some lost films. The original cut of Joan Of Arc even, which I consider the greatest ever silent film, was thought thought to be lost after a fire at UFA studios. The only version in circulation for half a century was an abomination edited by some other dude that added subtitles and s***. didn't find another copy until the 80's a janitor found it in the storage of a mental institution in Denmark. Crazy.

Very Based

1y

damn, someone should write a book about this

There are a ton of famous artworks/etc. as well that were found in the most random places. Caravaggio’s “Judith and Holofernes" found in an attic.

That 500 million dollar Davinci was bought at a random New Orleans Auction for less than 10k. Dead sea scrolls found in a cave, the Nag Hammadi scriptures found in a jar while some guy was digging for fertilizer.

Not to mention entire cities in the Amazon completely buried underneath forests. The burning of Alexandria by the c*** Julius Caesar. And all of the stolen artworks too. Rembrandts only known seascape was stolen near where I live. Some d***head just cut it out of the frame

Just looked it up and apparently Lang's Metropolis (or at least lost scenes) were found in 2008. I wonder if what @drjdeponytail said about 70 percent of films being lost had to do with film not being seen as a serious artform around that time, the way it is today. I suppose it's easier to see something as a cultural artifact while looking back rather than looking at.

Very Based

1y

damn, someone should write a book about this

There are a ton of famous artworks/etc. as well that were found in the most random places. Caravaggio’s “Judith and Holofernes" found in an attic.

That 500 million dollar Davinci was bought at a random New Orleans Auction for less than 10k. Dead sea scrolls found in a cave, the Nag Hammadi scriptures found in a jar while some guy was digging for fertilizer.

Not to mention entire cities in the Amazon completely buried underneath forests. The burning of Alexandria by the c*** Julius Caesar. And all of the stolen artworks too. Rembrandts only known seascape was stolen near where I live. Some d***head just cut it out of the frame

Just looked it up and apparently Lang's Metropolis (or at least lost scenes) were found in 2008. I wonder if what @drjdeponytail said about 70 percent of films being lost had to do with film not being seen as a serious artform around that time, the way it is today. I suppose it's easier to see something as a cultural artifact while looking back rather than looking at.

Koala

1y

@drjdeponytail @Jerry_Seinfeld @twinkletoez

Very Based

1y

@RVI
some girl invited me to charli xcx playing in nyc tonight. should I go?

500+ for tickets is ridiculous though.

Koala

1y

:datass:

rvi

1y

not for that price

shes not really that good of a performer, the atmosphere was just amazing when i saw her. not sure how much that is gonna translate to the bigger venues and surge of popularity she got tho

Very Based

1y

The Met had an exhibition of Caspar David Friedrich last month. Feel like you would dig him.

Both are (roughly) part of the same movement as John Martin, a painter I'd think you like. The painting you posted is inherited from the tradition of the early 19th century romantics like Martin and Friedrich.

Also you might like the fourth painting here by Thomas Cole. It's part of a series called The Course of an Empire which shows different stages of a civilizations growth from a primitive nature state to an imperial capital, to its destruction and then aftermath (return to nature)

The Savage State, or The Commencement of Empire

The Arcadian or Pastoral State

The Consummation of Empire

Destruction

Desolation

Also this is from a completely different era but the Odin painting you posted kind of reminds me of this painting. Always loved the magic realism in it.

Very Based

1y

noted i'm gonna pass then

rvi

1y

besides if you pay that much maybe youll be tempted to fall asleep mid concert again

Aruji

1y

The restored version of Metropolis is vastly superior to the one that had been around all the time before. It's really disheartening to see how much has been cut. Von Stroheim being quite the victim here.

Aruji

1y

The restored version of Metropolis is vastly superior to the one that had been around all the time before. It's really disheartening to see how much has been cut. Von Stroheim being quite the victim here.

Very Based

1y

damn, someone should write a book about this

There are a ton of famous artworks/etc. as well that were found in the most random places. Caravaggio’s “Judith and Holofernes" found in an attic.

That 500 million dollar Davinci was bought at a random New Orleans Auction for less than 10k. Dead sea scrolls found in a cave, the Nag Hammadi scriptures found in a jar while some guy was digging for fertilizer.

Not to mention entire cities in the Amazon completely buried underneath forests. The burning of Alexandria by the c*** Julius Caesar. And all of the stolen artworks too. Rembrandts only known seascape was stolen near where I live. Some d***head just cut it out of the frame

Just looked it up and apparently Lang's Metropolis (or at least lost scenes) were found in 2008. I wonder if what @drjdeponytail said about 70 percent of films being lost had to do with film not being seen as a serious artform around that time, the way it is today. I suppose it's easier to see something as a cultural artifact while looking back rather than looking at.