im guilty of it myself because i found it entertaining to talk about but its wild how much engagement they got with that list
yeah Miseducation is great but I cant say marinating on it for eons ever revealed and hidden depths or enveloped my psyche like 200 other albums have.
I remember when it came out well cause i was collecting The Source lol it was a big deal but not really something that made everybody stop in their tracks and take stock of this new world of potentialities that had been revealed or something... which is some hyperbole you could at least pretend to slap on some other albums.
Even in my lifetime I can remember Stankonia, MMLP and several Kanye albums doing that
Of course I’m the prick. You’re right, I should watch my tongue. I cant believe I possessed the obvious ability to recognize when a major multibillion dollar corporation isn’t making decisions with their heart. I’ll proceed to be an ignorant gullible moron.
NO S*** BUT WHY ARE YOU EXPECTING TO NOT BE POLITICAL IN THE FIRST PLACE.
and that album has more heart than you're giving it credit for and you seem so utterly baffled by this pick as if it isn't a best seller, grammy winning album. It ticks more boxes than just being a black female. If they really wanted to go all out then they'd give it to Beyonce
yeah Miseducation is great but I cant say marinating on it for eons ever revealed and hidden depths or enveloped my psyche like 200 other albums have.
I remember when it came out well cause i was collecting The Source lol it was a big deal but not really something that made everybody stop in their tracks and take stock of this new world of potentialities that had been revealed or something... which is some hyperbole you could at least pretend to slap on some other albums.
Even in my lifetime I can remember Stankonia, MMLP and several Kanye albums doing that
Did you laugh out loud when you saw it go #1 or are you aware of its previous accolades and awards to understand the pick, even with the political inference
Of all the albums in the top 10, Lauryn would be like the 5th least surprising. Cmon.... what are we doing here.
NO S*** BUT WHY ARE YOU EXPECTING TO NOT BE POLITICAL IN THE FIRST PLACE.
and that album has more heart than you're giving it credit for and you seem so utterly baffled by this pick as if it isn't a best seller, grammy winning album. It ticks more boxes than just being a black female. If they really wanted to go all out then they'd give it to Beyonce
I’m not baffled it’s there. It was like #10 or something on the recent Rolling Stone list. I’m just baffled it made it all the way to #1. I’m also not suggesting it’s political. I’m just saying it’s obviously calculated and cynical.
Can't believe I'm defending this dumb list but I'm confused why Lauryn f***ing Hill at #1 is something to laugh at. At that point it's just not personally getting the album. With all political context surrounding the list removed, ... It's a fine pick.
Did you laugh out loud when you saw it go #1 or are you aware of its previous accolades and awards to understand the pick, even with the political inference
I definitely chuckled when Rolling Stone put in the top ten oat a few years ago so I wasnt surprised to see it
I’m not baffled it’s there. It was like #10 or something on the recent Rolling Stone list. I’m just baffled it made it all the way to #1. I’m also not suggesting it’s political. I’m just saying it’s obviously calculated and cynical.
Explain how it's cynical? It's calculated yes, but at least they gave it to a very good record imo.
You say you aren't baffled it was there and that's not the point. Laughing out loud at that album being #1 is weird unless you've been living under a rock. That album gets more and more acclaim as the years go on. Is there an air of mystique around Lauryn that helps her out? Yes, but it's always been a great album
Sounds like it's really all personal taste. I agree with its acclaim. It belongs in all time talks. It's in my top 100. That's not the pick to laugh at though...
Explain how it's cynical? It's calculated yes, but at least they gave it to a very good record imo.
You say you aren't baffled it was there and that's not the point. Laughing out loud at that album being #1 is weird unless you've been living under a rock. That album gets more and more acclaim as the years go on. Is there an air of mystique around Lauryn that helps her out? Yes, but it's always been a great album
Living under a rock in what way? I apologize for not being tapped into modern music journalism—which everyone and their mother recognizes is kind of junk by the way. Pretty much every once respected publication has been bought out and disregarded. No one should be taking any of this s*** seriously. That’s why it was easy for me to laugh and move on. You’re acting way too emotionally invested.
Can't believe I'm defending this dumb list but I'm confused why Lauryn f***ing Hill at #1 is something to laugh at. At that point it's just not personally getting the album. With all political context surrounding the list removed, ... It's a fine pick.
yeah I dont really care, its just banter. felt alot easier to do an all time album list when I first dove into rock history in the early 00's but it seems impossible these days. partly cause the subgenres subgenres have subgenres now, partly cause of how twitter etc politicize the ever loving s*** out of them.
Living under a rock in what way? I apologize for not being tapped into modern music journalism—which everyone and their mother recognizes is kind of junk by the way. Pretty much every once respected publication has been bought out and disregarded. No one should be taking any of this s*** seriously. That’s why it was easy for me to laugh and move on. You’re acting way too emotionally invested.
You've made it clear that you don't care for the record and even said "there's no way it should be above" , certain albums blah blah blah, when it's really not that bad of a pick at all in an otherwise ass list
Living under a rock in a way that you'd laugh at that being #1 maybe? I'm not saying you have to like the album but you're acting like the entire point of its placement was to scratch off multiple boxes
I'm not denying a black female artist at #1 is political, but it's a very good pick
Maybe I'm more invested in that #1 pick then I should be but I really love the album, more so than any other record in the top 10 so it was a rare W in my eyes
I really feel like you're mostly just disagreeing with it personally and assuming every terrible metric was taken to give it #1. It's a good ass record.
If anything, it's a great way to introduce more people who may not have heard her. Everybody has heard most of the top 10
yeah I dont really care, its just banter. felt alot easier to do an all time album list when I first dove into rock history in the early 00's but it seems impossible these days. partly cause the subgenres subgenres have subgenres now, partly cause of how twitter etc politicize the ever loving s*** out of them.
Yeah I'd never run an all time list. Even personally making one feels impossible
Fam all time list would be the most hated of all time
Living under a rock in what way? I apologize for not being tapped into modern music journalism—which everyone and their mother recognizes is kind of junk by the way. Pretty much every once respected publication has been bought out and disregarded. No one should be taking any of this s*** seriously. That’s why it was easy for me to laugh and move on. You’re acting way too emotionally invested.
And sorry didn't mean to be so aggressive but you were so dismissive of the 1 pick that I thought was real af lol. It's an awesome album
And sorry didn't mean to be so aggressive but you were so dismissive of the 1 pick that I thought was real af lol. It's an awesome album
But man I never claimed it was a bad record. I like plenty of songs from it. She has a fantastic voice. It’s just that if you imagine every recorded piece of music throughout history and you see the image of that album cover pop up out of all the ones you could consider—it’s just a little silly in the moment is all.
But man I never claimed it was a bad record. I like plenty of songs from it. She has a fantastic voice. It’s just that if you imagine every recorded piece of music throughout history and you see the image of that album cover pop up out of all the ones you could consider—it’s just a little silly in the moment is all.
Hmm I disagree.
But are you looking at it through a historic lens.?None of that list seems to really following a normal formula. Bille frickin Eilish is above Wu-Tang and OutKast
It's not like any of our all time lists would make any historical sense
i really feel like they wanted to be somewhat modern, and yes, tick the box you mentioned
It's still a great album
I will say nothing pissed me off more in that AM thread then when I got called a racist cracker for not thinking Beyonce is all that
I will say nothing pissed me off more in that AM thread then when I got called a racist cracker for not thinking Beyonce is all that
I was called that for criticizing Mr. Morale
Of all the albums in the top 10, Lauryn would be like the 5th least surprising. Cmon.... what are we doing here.

She went full Oracle on here
She went full Oracle on here
Classic on classics everywhere on that joint
Classic on classics everywhere on that joint
You heard this b-side?

The switch at 2:25 always makes me