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  • Dec 29, 2023
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    Elric

    It was just bad timing lol. Send me that playlist you made for me again.

    I stopped working on it because I figured you weren't interested. So, you'll have to give me some time to finalize it.

  • Dec 29, 2023
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    Very Based

    I stopped working on it because I figured you weren't interested. So, you'll have to give me some time to finalize it.

    what makes you say that

  • Dec 29, 2023
    Elric

    what makes you say that

    idk you didn't respond to my post when I said I was working on a playlist for you so I just figured you didn't care or didn't want to hear it. I wasn't salty or anything, just moved on.

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    My dad is much more of a classical aficionado than me and he's really not that into Bach, went to a performance with his friend and thought it sounded too mathematical, which to be fair, it is in a way. And his friend disagreed. But tbh I think they're both somewhat wrong. Bach was not a mathematician, but he certainly thought like one. Just as Einstein the physicist was not a musician but certainly thought like one.
    theconversation.com/good-vibrations-the-role-of-music-in-einsteins-thinking-54725

    Bach thought and wrote like a mathematician, and its especially evident in his use of polyphonic counterpoint, which sounds structured and logical. But he ultimately completely transcends that quality in the end. How? I'm not really sure... Would have to really think about it. But it's evident there in the music. Bach's music has the quality of seeming unpredictable in the encounter of it and yet inevitable in the retrospection of it. I think the same could be said about Beethoven. Beethoven was never able to write a fugue like the one I posted by Bach and yet he possesses the same miracle quality of inevitability, where each note is so unpredictable and yet the only note that could have been placed there, Bernstein said it best "as if he had a private telephone wire to heaven." (Could the same be truly said about Mozart? Surely not to the same extent. And Mozart is still somehow maybe as good as them, which is a whole other thing to think about...)

    also I'm realizing the passacaglia and fugue is probably not the best example of Bach's unpredictability... The Brandenburg Concertos would be a better example probably.

    Anyway I'm really just writing this into the void at this point since i figure peeps in this thread aren't interested and no one's gonna read these walls of text but imma write it anyway if you made it this far big kisses i luv ya

  • Dec 29, 2023
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    Very Based

    My dad is much more of a classical aficionado than me and he's really not that into Bach, went to a performance with his friend and thought it sounded too mathematical, which to be fair, it is in a way. And his friend disagreed. But tbh I think they're both somewhat wrong. Bach was not a mathematician, but he certainly thought like one. Just as Einstein the physicist was not a musician but certainly thought like one.
    https://theconversation.com/good-vibrations-the-role-of-music-in-einsteins-thinking-54725

    Bach thought and wrote like a mathematician, and its especially evident in his use of polyphonic counterpoint, which sounds structured and logical. But he ultimately completely transcends that quality in the end. How? I'm not really sure... Would have to really think about it. But it's evident there in the music. Bach's music has the quality of seeming unpredictable in the encounter of it and yet inevitable in the retrospection of it. I think the same could be said about Beethoven. Beethoven was never able to write a fugue like the one I posted by Bach and yet he possesses the same miracle quality of inevitability, where each note is so unpredictable and yet the only note that could have been placed there, Bernstein said it best "as if he had a private telephone wire to heaven." (Could the same be truly said about Mozart? Surely not to the same extent. And Mozart is still somehow maybe as good as them, which is a whole other thing to think about...)

    also I'm realizing the passacaglia and fugue is probably not the best example of Bach's unpredictability... The Brandenburg Concertos would be a better example probably.

    Anyway I'm really just writing this into the void at this point since i figure peeps in this thread aren't interested and no one's gonna read these walls of text but imma write it anyway if you made it this far big kisses i luv ya

    We read, we just don't have enough of a frame of reference to comment (other than maybe aruji). I love the odd classical piece but don't know anything about fugues etc and feel like I would have to attempt a full chronological classical dive before I could banter (not gonna happen).

  • Dec 29, 2023
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    Elric

    We read, we just don't have enough of a frame of reference to comment (other than maybe aruji). I love the odd classical piece but don't know anything about fugues etc and feel like I would have to attempt a full chronological classical dive before I could banter (not gonna happen).

    fair enough full chronological classical dive would be a behemoth undertaking. I'll just post nice pieces from time to time and if someone likes it, then I've accomplished something after all

  • Dec 29, 2023
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    Very Based

    fair enough full chronological classical dive would be a behemoth undertaking. I'll just post nice pieces from time to time and if someone likes it, then I've accomplished something after all

    Link me some of your fav joints. Besides just knowing their names I’m a total noob with classical. I just know it sounded great with headphones

  • Dec 29, 2023
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    Very Based

    fair enough full chronological classical dive would be a behemoth undertaking. I'll just post nice pieces from time to time and if someone likes it, then I've accomplished something after all

    You could make me a nutshell History of Classical playlists so I could get the gist of its progression like how I just made a History Of Funk for somebody else on request

  • rvi 🦤
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    I took a class on Bach in college but I never attended the lecture and barely remember anything

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    rvi

    I took a class on Bach in college but I never attended the lecture and barely remember anything

    sounds like you should be going going Bach Bach to college college

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    Dec 29, 2023
    Elric

    sounds like you should be going going Bach Bach to college college

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    @Koala @Very_Based I just finished reading Augustus by John Williams, man this guy could do everything. I'm not that big on historical fiction but the whole thing is pieced together so well and beautifully written. It's a shame he only wrote a few books

  • Dec 29, 2023

    The young man, who does not know the future, sees life as a kind of epic adventure, an Odyssey through strange seas and unknown islands, where he will test and prove his powers, and thereby discover his immortality.

    The man of middle years, who has lived the future that he onced dreamed, sees life as a tragedy; for he has learned that his power, however great, will not prevail against those forces of accident and nature to which he gives the names of gods, and has learned that he is mortal.

    But the man of age, if he plays his assigned role properly, must see life as a comedy. For his triumphs and his failures merge, and one is no more the occasion for pride or shame than the other; and he is neither the hero who proves himself against those forces, nor the protagonist who is destroyed by them. Like any poor, pitiable shell of an actor, he comes to see that he has played so many parts that there no longer is himself.

  • Dec 29, 2023
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    Bizzle

    @Koala @Very_Based I just finished reading Augustus by John Williams, man this guy could do everything. I'm not that big on historical fiction but the whole thing is pieced together so well and beautifully written. It's a shame he only wrote a few books

    you could've tagged me here I love historical fiction and Octavian was the boi/man

  • Dec 29, 2023
    Elric

    you could've tagged me here I love historical fiction and Octavian was the boi/man

    You gotta give it a read then, you'll f***ing love it

  • Dec 29, 2023
    Bizzle

    @Koala @Very_Based I just finished reading Augustus by John Williams, man this guy could do everything. I'm not that big on historical fiction but the whole thing is pieced together so well and beautifully written. It's a shame he only wrote a few books

    I was just rec'ing someone Butcher's Crossing a few days ago, still think about that one. Probably the only western to mention how bad it smelled during that period haha

  • Dec 29, 2023
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    Koala

    Link me some of your fav joints. Besides just knowing their names I’m a total noob with classical. I just know it sounded great with headphones

    Classical music changes so much over 500 years. Are there any composers you like or eras you're into? Or a specific piece you've always loved? Are you turned off by sentimental pieces? Do you care for more avant garde 20th century classical?

    Or I can just post some dope pieces i think you may like if you don't have an answer to any of those questions.

  • Dec 29, 2023
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    Elric

    You could make me a nutshell History of Classical playlists so I could get the gist of its progression like how I just made a History Of Funk for somebody else on request

    hmm I could do this, but it would be a very long playlist and my only worry is if it came out kind of generic if I was to put too many recognizable pieces in it. I would have to find a good balance. Would be kind of fun though, could start with renaissance era and go all the way to modern classical.

  • Dec 29, 2023
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    Bizzle

    @Koala @Very_Based I just finished reading Augustus by John Williams, man this guy could do everything. I'm not that big on historical fiction but the whole thing is pieced together so well and beautifully written. It's a shame he only wrote a few books

    Actually think I read that when I was a teenager. After watching HBO's Rome I read a buncha books about that period. Definitely one of the cooler historical eras.

  • Dec 29, 2023
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    Very Based

    hmm I could do this, but it would be a very long playlist and my only worry is if it came out kind of generic if I was to put too many recognizable pieces in it. I would have to find a good balance. Would be kind of fun though, could start with renaissance era and go all the way to modern classical.

    Or you could make one for each era. How many are there even ?

  • Dec 29, 2023
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    Very Based

    Classical music changes so much over 500 years. Are there any composers you like or eras you're into? Or a specific piece you've always loved? Are you turned off by sentimental pieces? Do you care for more avant garde 20th century classical?

    Or I can just post some dope pieces i think you may like if you don't have an answer to any of those questions.

    I enjoyed the piece you posted so im thinking in line with that dude I don't know anything bout classical other than the names Zaytoven, Bach, and Mozart. So just throw some stuff my way haha.. You know my style

  • Dec 29, 2023
    leals core rise

    Actually think I read that when I was a teenager. After watching HBO's Rome I read a buncha books about that period. Definitely one of the cooler historical eras.

    Kid Octavian was the clever yin to a.j. sopranos idiot yang on HBO at the time

  • Dec 29, 2023
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    rvi

    I took a class on Bach in college but I never attended the lecture and barely remember anything

    Lucky. That could be a difficult class though unless it was just an introduction to Bach.

    One of my most bizarre moments in college was I took a summer course for classical music in Boston College. The professor was this old Russian guy who loved me because he always loved the essays I wrote. On the final exam I didn't study because I thought I was gonna easily ace it then of course ended up not knowing any of the answers. But this dude loved me so much that he kept walking around to my desk discreetly and pointing to the answers on the sheet while no one was looking. Probably fed me like 30 answers over the course of an hour. A real college professor did this. He once told me "Henry, this is the greatest essay I've received from a student in my 20 years teaching here, I even showed it to my wife"

    I think he was just happy to have a student who actually cared about his passion for once cuz none of the other students gave a s***.